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JG52Karaya 02-28-2011 02:44 PM

I think the Yak-3 VK107 has more wrong about it than just the armament. I'm no Yak expert but looking at it in the armament screen it seems to be much larger than the regular Yak-3 (fuselage, wings), more of the general size of a Yak-9U.

So as far as I can tell the current Yak-3 VK107 seems to use some sort of modified Yak-9U model while it should be very much similar to the normal Yak-3 using the smaller wing (14.85m^2 vs 17.15m^2 on all other Yaks)

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Originally Posted by TinyTim (Post 229093)
Good thread Ice! Glad to see the Yak-9UT getting its armament fixed.

Speaking of Yaks - Yak-3 VK-107 has wrong armament too. According to Yefim Gordon it was fitted either with two (both in cowling) or with three B-20 cannons (additional one firing through the spinner). In the sim it has one ShVAK (between cilinders) and one UBS (cowling).


Oktoberfest 02-28-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy (Post 229253)
Possible since 4.10, read the guide...
Just give this command a key

Really ? Great ! And thnx. And sorry to have asked :)

IceFire 02-28-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Karaya (Post 229256)
I think the Yak-3 VK107 has more wrong about it than just the armament. I'm no Yak expert but looking at it in the armament screen it seems to be much larger than the regular Yak-3 (fuselage, wings), more of the general size of a Yak-9U.

So as far as I can tell the current Yak-3 VK107 seems to use some sort of modified Yak-9U model while it should be very much similar to the normal Yak-3 using the smaller wing (14.85m^2 vs 17.15m^2 on all other Yaks)

The Yak-3 VK107 is definitely messed up in a bunch of ways but I'm not sure exactly all of them. I think it may be best left in the realm of "WTF" next to the Lerche :)

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 02-28-2011 10:26 PM

Bombs and tanks on long nose Fw109's. Panzerblitz rockets for groundattack versions.

IceFire 03-01-2011 01:20 AM

Great thread so far... just the sort of things that maybe can be fixed.

I'd like to see the Japanese types get the proper cannons and machine guns were appropriate. I think the problems extent to some of the AI types as well such as the G4M2 and H8K. I think those are firing MG151/20 cannons out of the rear turrets... but I'm 99% certain that the only MG151/20 usage was seen on the Ki-61 Hei.

Oktoberfest 03-01-2011 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 229398)
Bombs and tanks on long nose Fw109's. Panzerblitz rockets for groundattack versions.

Is that your wishlist for TD ? Or what TD is actually working on ?????

BTW, don't forget the Bf110 also carried Panzerblitz on the eastern fron :)

csThor 03-01-2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Oktoberfest (Post 229515)
Is that your wishlist for TD ? Or what TD is actually working on ?????

BTW, don't forget the Bf110 also carried Panzerblitz on the eastern fron :)

It's his personal wishlist. And the Bf 110 had been phased out by the time the Panzerblitz rockets came into use (except as nightfighter, of course). Only Fw 190 F-8 and F-9 ever used Panzerblitz rockets operationally.

Oktoberfest 03-01-2011 09:51 AM

Ah, I was mistaken about the 110. It wasn't a regular modification.

I just remember one picture that I had seen long ago (can't find it again though) of a 110 with Panzerblitz under the wings. It was certainly a field modification.

I even saw once a picture of a 110 with 6x21 cm rocket under each wing, specially dedicated to ground attack of course. That plane must have flown like a brick. However, this field mod would surely be appreciated for ground pounding. I know it was very rare so I'm not asking at all ! Just dreaming !

Oktoberfest 03-01-2011 10:17 AM

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How about the introduction of the RZ65 and RZ73 system though ?

It was used on Bf109F, FW190s and on Bf110 (up to 12 rockets mounted under the belly of the aircraft). Even if precision was not so good, it could give at last an antitank rocket to the Luftwaffe.



http://www.wehrmacht-history.com/luf...ir-missile.htm

http://www.tarrif.net/wwii/guides/a2g_rockets.htm

I think this could be interesting for pilots who wants to have a twin engined ground pounding aircraft like the P38 but on the blue side.

Grach 03-01-2011 11:42 PM

I agree that a lot of the PF IJN machines have odd weapons fits and should be cleaned up. The H8K1 is one of the most obvious with MG-151/20 and MG-81. At least the G4M has MG-FF/M and .303 Browning which is a bit closer. Also Zeros etc with MG-FF/M and MG-15... Are there any actual Japanese weapons modelled??
Anyway If you guys could see your way clear to cleaning up the H8K1 (even with MG-FF/M and .303 Browning it would be a vast improvement) could you also perhaps include an H8K2 (the major production version) with 20mm in each of the five turrets(!) for a bit of a challenge? ;)

Non-Japanese weapon wishes using already extant models;

1) IAR.80a with six machine guns as flyable. Correct 13.2mm (even .50 cal would suffice) Brownings for IAR.80b and IAR.81a.

2) Mosquito FB.VI with 8x rockets as an option (perhaps a 1944 version with higher boost Merlin 25 engines for this?)

3) add the radio room .50 cal to the various B-17s. Actually, adding the twin .50 cal to the B-17D radio room is pretty critical. At the moment it seems to have no dorsal armament! :eek:

4) Hurricane loadouts: 8 gun IIb option. (The outer 4 guns were often removed in the Far East to lighten the aircraft.) 500lb bombs would also be nice for both IIb and IIc, plus 250lb for the IIc.
The Russian conversions had quite a variety of loadouts, ignoring the various gun options (4x UB or 4x ShVAK) they could be fitted with 4x RS/BRS-82, or various bombs up to 2x 100kg.

That's about it off the top of my head. Thank you for fixing up the loadouts you already have. (I've been waiting ages for an MG-151/20 equipped Bf109G10!) :cool:


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