Cool...

http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...g_guide,4.html
check out the benchmark pages... with the aggressive OC 1000/2290MHZ the 560ti (1Gig) is on par and in some cases BETTER than the 570. and with the more reliable 950mhz OC its pretty much on par with the 570.

That's pretty awesome for a card that's 100 bucks cheaper than the 570.

Yes on a overclock to 1000 you can basicly match the 570 at stock speeds. The 570 on overclock however leaves the 560 in the dust and most everything else as well. But like you I am on a budget this time of the year, ( got to pay Uncle Sam greenbacks ) so the 560 appealed to me. Not sure how much of a bottle neck the Q9550 on a Asus P5K will be. But I am sure the 560 will smoke my old 9800gt. I am so looking forward to dropping it in tomorrow afternoon and trying a little over clocking to see what I can get it up to. When I get COD loaded I want to be setup and ready. Next year I will do a new build. And then I will go all out, who knows what will be out there this time next year?

Briggs this one is for you.

I got the PALit 2 gig GTX650Ti in today and did some playing. First off if you do any playing aorund with it go to your Asus bios and write down your settings. I did not and at one point crashed my system. I was running 3.7 but could not remember the settings so setup to 3.2 and the good news is that is how you have yours setup so this should give you some kind of idea how it will play out on yours.

First off I got the latest drivers from Nvadia and installed them. PALit gives a little program that will let you adjust speeds but not voltage. MSI Afterburner 2.0 will not allow you to change it either. You will need Afterburner 2.1 Beta. It covers the 560 boards. I also used MSI Kombuster to see how my clocks held up. I set it on 1920x1080 AAx4.

On stock voltage I was able to hit 900/1800 no sweat. I then bumped from 1.025v(stock) to 1.075v and hit 940/1880 and then 950/1900. I then had to go to 1.100v to hit 960/1920. I ended up at 1.125v and had 975/1950. I never touched the memory clock. The most voltage I can go up to is 1.150v. But I think I will stop there. I did not try to go above 975/1950 at 1.125v. I let it run in Kombuster on stress test for 30 minutes and it held up. I hit a max of 73 degrees and the fan never went over 51%. And I cannot hear the fan at that speed.

The only real game I tried it on was IL 2 1946 and it took out my shudder problem and maintained my frame rate. So the real test will come when COD comes.

BTW, what Vcore voltage are you running on your overclock?

I'm sure everyone knows this, but a little reminder.

Increasing the voltage to your GPU or your CPU can have negative consequences. Such consequences may include. . .

-increased power consumption
-instability
-reduction in processor life
-increases in heat output
-voiding your warranty
-stability in benchmarking, but instability in other applications
-stomach pains
-causing damage to your mainboard (rare)

If you're overclocking make sure you keep a close eye on temperatures and if possible use aftermarket cooling methods (typically a better heatsink/fan or combination of both).

If such issues crop up discontinue your voltage increases. If the issues persist after returning to default settings, consult a nerd.

Monitor everything. Always have. Been running a q9550 cpu 2.86 at 3.7 for 3 years. From what I have read the 560ti is good for a lot more than 1.150v. It is just they set that as the limiter on the card. Temps look excellent so far and most likely will back down to 950/1900 @1.075v. Just like to push it to see how far it would go. So far from the review sites I have seen, 975/1900 @ 1.125v is not uncommon with this board.

But your point is well taken. Everything you have said is true. So everyone overclock at your own risk.

Thats great news! Im gonna hold off on getting the card till the release of CoD. Im interested in seeing what my oc'd 4850 can muster before I spend anymore money... This card upgrade will be the last bit of hardware i'll put into this rig from now on... After that, its time for a whole new setup
If I get it I'm hoping to do what they did on that website i posted earlier, and try to make ~940-50 on stock voltage. Ill probably just use nvidias oc tool too.

As for my CPU 3.2 OC. The vcore is at 1.35, tho i set it to 1.36 in the bios... The cpuid is telling me its only using 1.35. Temps are great, havent seen anything higher than 58C when stressed. The bios is set at a 9 mulitiplier and 355 for he frequency.

Here is another site where you can compare vid cards :
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....=628&card2=641

I have a ATI ASUS 6870 that I am very happy with. I never had an ATI card before, I was strictly Nvidia. I upgraded a month ago. Vid card was my last and toughest decision and I finally got the 6870 for a good price at Tigerdirect.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...351&CatId=2306

Go to the first link I gave you and put in the 6870, it compares rather well with both the Nvidia cards you listed and its $244 at Tigerdirect. It also uses less power than either the Nvidia cards which means it should run cooler.
Not trying to change you mind, just giving you some food for thought.

hmm that does sound pretty good too... though i really like the 2gig option with the 560ti. But it seems that with an overclock the 6870 should be on par with it.

food for thought indeed.

Maybe compare the 6950 to the 560Ti. It has 2GB and performance 'n' pricewise it's close too.

I had a look at that but here in the Netherlands I can have A MSI 560Ti for 219 euro and that is way cheaper than a 6950.

So i'm think to go nvidia on an ASUS p8h67 mount an i5 2500k on it with 4 gb 1333 kingston and see where it ill get me.
Both the i5 and the 560 seam ocable enough.
any sugestions?