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Royraiden 01-29-2011 09:44 PM

I rather be shot down playing at the native res than being able to spot the planes better at half the native resolution.Maybe this could be related to our sight.I dont need glasses how about you guys?

The Kraken 01-29-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ytareh (Post 218489)
Is this a game engine issue or simply due to the number of dots used to show distant planes and 'pixel size'?

Il2 initially used bigger and more visible dots but many people complained so it was changed in some early patch. Now it's exactly 1 pixel, and as pointed out that pixel gets smaller with higher resolution.

Cliffs of Dover will most likely have planes and other objects visible much further out because technology has improved, people use higher resolutions and anti aliasing is an established feature now - all of this makes it sensible to render planes as 3D objects where Il2 already switches to the dot representation.

I guess we'll have to wait for the release to find out how it works now; this isn't something that can easily be shown on screens or videos.

Flanker35M 01-30-2011 09:32 AM

S!

Not to mention that the LOD values on many planes in IL-2 are way off, even today. Making some look like Lego blocks at a distance where the other plane is smaller. This affected for example Bf109-series as you could tell which one was a 109 over enemy plane because of the bigger dot and plane model at certain LOD range.

Qpassa 01-30-2011 10:40 AM

I play at 1920x1200 , AAx4 and I have not any problems looking for bandits

Foo'bar 01-30-2011 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Qpassa (Post 218689)
I play at 1920x1200 , AAx4 and I have not any problems looking for bandits


Same here. Samsung SM 2443

Gromic 01-30-2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Qpassa (Post 218689)
I play at 1920x1200 , AAx4 and I have not any problems looking for bandits

Then you sir have better vision than the vast majority of the rest of us armchair pilots. Let's hope it stays that way.

Even when I was younger (hitting 45 in September) I never had 20/20 vision. Then I lost 95% eyesight on the right side in 1986 due to an infection (from 100% to 5% overnight) which didn't make things any better. Especially frustrating when the above mentioned effectivly canned my chances for a PPL rating (I was an aircraft mechanic at that point in time working in my father's shop). Virtual Airtime is the only kind I get these days.

Anyway, back on topic. I know Oleg realizes that 17" CRTs are no longer the norm with todays LCDs capable of much higher resolutions. Here's hoping that distant aircraft won't be "dots" in the same sense as they were in IL-2.

Cheers

Qpassa 01-30-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 218696)
Same here. Samsung SM 2443

lol I have the same screen, bought in pixmania :-P
I'm sorry about that Gromic :(

KG26_Alpha 01-30-2011 11:56 AM

I've seen screen shots from a particular online-war pilot, aircraft looked like a flying bricks.

These guys are into stats mungering.

800x600 turn off all details no buildings etc etc

You see aircraft from way out and all ground targets are easy to see as there's no scenery buildings just flat terrain till you are almost on top of it, quite sad but they are interested only in points and their stats, what the sim/game looks like is of no consequence to them.

fruitbat 01-30-2011 12:12 PM

i play at 1920 by 1200 with the aa cranked up to 16xQ, on a samsung 24inch monitor

maybe i can't see dots as well below me, but i never seem to have that much problem seeing them, and for what advantage i loose, i'm more than happy to have the eye candy.

i think i would throw up playing it in 1024x768.

Flanker35M 01-30-2011 02:33 PM

S!

I play at 1920x1200 and have some difficulties spotting planes at times. Especially when they approach and go near the horizon, kind of disappear before appearing again. I hope the dot issue is better handled in CoD..we are not playing with small screens anymore ;)


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