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Originally Posted by =SLO=Hellcat (Post 207928)

Well if LW planes were as good as you are saying, Germany wouldn't have lost the war. :D

Real dumb answer.

...to a real dumb question.

Kind of apt, then.

P-51 fly like a Spitfire? That's the funniest thing I've heard all day.

Can't do a bat like pull out in your 190 after diving from low earth orbit?

:rolleyes:

This will end ugly.

Can't wait.

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Originally Posted by =69.GIAP=TOOZ (Post 207944)

Could it be he is talking about the G effects? From what I understand (I fly bombers mostly, so haven't done much fighter flying with 4.10) the traditional BnZ fighters tend to suffer more as they tend to get up to higher speeds than other aircraft (i.e. late 109's and 190's, for example) and if you try to manouvre too hard out of your dive, then you're probably gonna break something.

Perhaps doing a little bit of practice to improve your tendencies to pull too hard on your stick (oo-er, that might be taken the wrong way!) might be what is required here? Or am I wrong in this analysis?

That's probably the best guess. That or his medication is making him loopy :D. No FM changes to any Luftwaffe aircraft or really any aircraft at all. Just the P-51 with the smallest of FM changes to fix an old mistake - somehow that is a controversy :) But I'm not surprised.

Even with the G force restrictions it's actually not so bad for German aircraft because they are tougher than most and the FW190 in particular can pull very hard without loosing any structural bits and pieces. At least so far... I've been flying FW190A-9s and Ta152H-1s so far. On the flipside, I saw a La-7 do a hard negative knife edge in front of me and his tail section separated at around 700kph. My FW190 was just fine :cool:

Well, I find flight modelling of all planes (that I tried at least) somewhat less wobbly than before, which deserves a big thumbs up in my humble opinion. Up to now some planes (like Hellcat and Corsair) felt like an 1:72 scale model hang up on a couple of elastic strings, wobbling all around. They appear to be a lot more stable now.

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Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 207966)

Even with the G force restrictions it's actually not so bad for German aircraft because they are tougher than most and the FW190 in particular can pull very hard without loosing any structural bits and pieces. At least so far... I've been flying FW190A-9s and Ta152H-1s so far. On the flipside, I saw a La-7 do a hard negative knife edge in front of me and his tail section separated at around 700kph. My FW190 was just fine :cool:

Last night I tested a Fw190A5 in Spits-vs-109 Server (4.10 Unmodded) against a bunch of P39s and La-5Fs. I could get 2 La-5F kills just by hitting them with no more that 7 impacts when they were in a high-G turn, breaking them in pieces (tail or wings broke). I did not see that before, with so few hits (I could count them on my user stats page).

So it seems the new G-load feature works against T&B fighters the same as the initial poster said against B&Z ones. Probably G-overloads had damaged their structure before so hard that some few hits were enough to crack it. I think this is the reason, not my aim, indeed :)

By the way I did not use Fw190 as B&Z fighter but as Hit and Run one.

Is the new G-loading applicable to the AI? IRC AI pilots did not suffer from blackouts / redouts, which allowed them a considerable freedom of manouevring.

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Originally Posted by AETORAS (Post 207924)

OK i am in game from 2001 first title of IL2 STURMOVIK. I but now i am very disappointed i fly ONLY LW planes why i like them and now i see them very unmatched you fix FM of p 51( yes can fly like a spit ) nice. you fix a lot of other things but why you destroy German planes? so i think you have destroy bf -109 all of them and FW 190 DORA so i like all people say opinions for 4.10 and the planes FM i start first

LW pilot 4.10 EPIC FAIL

The Bf109s are fine with 4.10.
It look like they feel a little faster at low alt, and are smoother to fly.

Fw190s are fine also if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by AETORAS (Post 207924)

Years of rersearch, AND MAKING REQUEST ABOUT FM LW, THEY SAY THAT

THEY ARE NOT PERFOM ANY CHANGES IN LW FM!

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES IN FM LW.

NOT NOT NOT !!! NOT!!! ANDDDDDDDDDDD NOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTT

FM LW CHANGES ?NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT

Imagine LW pilots Fight in real conditions WITH 1- 6 or 1 - 10 in servers ?

OR Imagine a Buby Hartman In LA7 ??? :rolleyes:

GO AND PLAY WITH THE TEAM RED AND IT`S GOING TO BE MORE, MORE, MORE EASY :grin:

LOL

Or Go and cry whit the loosers

Maybe You need this video... AND CRY BABY!!! :-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFl8X...layer_embedded

OR you can learn how to fly LW

Full real settings against all odds

I admire this pilots

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6917/dibujodfi.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5286/dibujo2hg.jpg

Drugs....stop doing them.