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Splitter 09-26-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Romanator21 (Post 184750)
Uhh, isn't that what the above pictures show?

Not the way that it was described as I interpreted it. The rail was not there for a guide, the bomb was attached to the rail and lowered prior to release.

Damned ingenious design really.

Splitter

winny 09-26-2010 09:50 PM

Does anyone know if the rail was always there? Or was there some unfortunate pilot somewhere who discovered that all of a sudden he had no propeller?

Romanator21 09-26-2010 10:24 PM

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Not the way that it was described as I interpreted it. The rail was not there for a guide, the bomb was attached to the rail and lowered prior to release.

Damned ingenious design really.
Then I guess I don't understand what you mean. Could you elaborate?

Splitter 09-26-2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Romanator21 (Post 184949)
Then I guess I don't understand what you mean. Could you elaborate?

The way I read it, and it may not be how it was meant, was that the bomb was guided by the rail. My point was that the bomb was not released from the "belly" of the plane but was lowered on the rail prior and then released from there. I'm not sure id any other aircraft of the time had such a mechanism.

Splitter

Splitter 09-26-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by winny (Post 184941)
Does anyone know if the rail was always there? Or was there some unfortunate pilot somewhere who discovered that all of a sudden he had no propeller?

I know they had accidents in development, but I think the rail.sling was there from the start.

Splitter

Romanator21 09-26-2010 11:12 PM

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The way I read it, and it may not be how it was meant, was that the bomb was guided by the rail. My point was that the bomb was not released from the "belly" of the plane but was lowered on the rail prior and then released from there. I'm not sure id any other aircraft of the time had such a mechanism.
Well, yes, the trapeze swung down before release in order to keep the bomb away from the prop. The mechanism is not modeled in IL-2.

PS - I was looking for a video which would demonstrate the movement of the trapeze, when I stumbled upon this gem of historical accuracy. :rolleyes: (watch from 3:45 until 4:10)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PzfGAZvT5M

Splitter 09-26-2010 11:43 PM

"trapeze": That's the word I have been looking for in my brain all day lol.

Spliter

Rodolphe 09-27-2010 05:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Splitter (Post 184951)
I'm not sure id any other aircraft of the time had such a mechanism.

Splitter


A carrier-borne dive bomber called the Blackburn Skua ;)

which owns the first confirmed "Kill" by a British aircraft in the Second World War.

http://www.swafineart.com/images/31....ourage_lrg.jpg

Supreme Courage by Philip E. West

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Rodolphe 09-27-2010 06:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Romanator21 (Post 184957)
Well, yes, the trapeze swung down before release in order to keep the bomb away from the prop. The mechanism is not modeled in IL-2.

PS - I was looking for a video which would demonstrate the movement of the trapeze, when I stumbled upon this gem of historical accuracy. :rolleyes: (watch from 3:45 until 4:10)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PzfGAZvT5M


There is a close shot of the "Ablenkgabel" at 1'10" on this video.

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Ablenkgabel.jpg



Manoeuvring Fork
http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39...lenkgabel1.jpg



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robtek 09-27-2010 07:39 AM

I believe the correct description of the drop is as follows:
1. The bomb is RELEASED from the ETC501
2. The Bomb is GUIDED by the Trapez outside the propeller arc.
The Bomb is not released from the trapez as it isn't fixed to it!
There are just forks at the end of the trapez, not clamps.


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