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Blackdog_kt 10-10-2010 04:05 AM

This has been discussed a few updates back and some people came up with reliable references describing the situation. It turned out that it's accurate as hurricanes had 2-3 different spinner arrangements, sometimes depending on the type of propeller used.

If i remember correctly, IL-2 models one kind of spinner while the screenshots we've seen of SoW tend to model the other one.
Bottom line is that both arrangements are accurate, plus the missing spinner design could perhaps be added at a later date in a patch.

If we wanted to get really pedantic about it i'm sure someone could come up with reliable data from the 40s, giving us the statistics about what percentage of Hurricanes used each spinner type so that the sim could model them in such a fashion. For example when the player's squadron spawns upon mission start, we could have 60% of the Hurricanes sporting one type of spinner and the other 40% having the other one.

To be honest, i think it's a modest detailing issue and since the type of spinner modelled in SoW was in fact used at the time and is not wrong historically speaking, i tend to consider the addition of the second spinner type a cosmetic detail that can be added at a later date.

Mind you i'm not trying to be antagonistic here. I'm just trying to say that while your observation is correct, it's not exclusive as the type of spinner we've seen in SoW screenshots was in fact also used during the battle of Britain. Just trying to be careful with my wording here, as i'm just back home from a night out with friends and my system is "fueled" by a few vodkas and various other beverages. I hope this helps, cheers :grin:

Spudkopf 10-10-2010 06:17 AM

Here's are some images that show evidence of rivits and their high-lighting and shaddowing effects on the forward cowling of JU-E.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../0/1026024.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/0747401.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../3/0816394.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/0747401.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../0/0935004.jpg

However there appears to be no such evidence of these effects on the rear cowling.

Of note is that this example of the Huricane is an ex Soviet aircraft, so could it be possible that this is a feature of Soviet Hurricanes?

Friendly_flyer 10-10-2010 02:01 PM

Here's a Hurri showing the rivet lines bout on the forward and aft engine housing plates. Contrary to the other pictures posted, this one is still in it's wartime paint:

http://tietokannat.mil.fi/puolustusj..._images/22.jpg

Friendly_flyer 10-10-2010 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 188547)
This has been discussed a few updates back and some people came up with reliable references describing the situation. It turned out that it's accurate as hurricanes had 2-3 different spinner arrangements, sometimes depending on the type of propeller used.

If i remember correctly, IL-2 models one kind of spinner while the screenshots we've seen of SoW tend to model the other one.

The Hurricane went through 4 types of spinners in it's career:

- A small, pointy spinner for the Watts 2-bladed non-variable propeller, pre-war and very early war only.

- A slightly larger, pointy spinner for the DeHaviland three-bladed propeller, early Mk.Is only. This is what we see in the IL2 version of the Mk.I.

- A blunt, somewhat oversized Rotol spinner really made for the Spitfire, but fitted to most medium- to late model Mk.Is. This is the type of spinner we see in Oleg's SoW screenshots.

- A semi-pointed long spinner for the Mk.II marks and later. This is well represented in IL2.

WTE_Galway 10-10-2010 10:15 PM

Those lines are almost certainly painted on as a skin texture rather than part of the 3D model.


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