it bothers me too, in both ways. someone will riddle me up to where i can not keep it in the air no matter what i do. it nose into the dig but no kill for them...they got robbed plain and simple...and i tell them that. xbox doesnt have the bail for credit option or i would be more than glad to. and it works the other way...i finally get on someone's tail and chomp it hard..they lose control and auger in...no credit for me. so i guess it sort of averages out..but when you get killed more than not...those few victories are precious.

JOED70 :...But I'm one of these people who feels bad if there is some one in a round who has no kills or points . I often times will try and make my self an easy target for these people . I look at it this way we want to encourage people to play online not drive them away out of frustration .[/QUOTE]

really very nice from u.u are good meaning
yes i m agree with u,we must encourage the new players who start to play and
i think that a messages like "good game"or " nice fly" are nice to hear for the new guys...maybe they are a rookies today but tomorow it will be very possible(and sure)they will be a great players and kick some ass!!


u are a gentleman JOED70
good hunting

I agree 100% bobby. except that it's the fact a lot of players will never bail ever. And that is one from a historicaly accurate simulation that this game is and, all the attention to detail the artists created in this its a shame that some incentive to bail was not factored in . Bailing out was the only chance at survival Aircrew are worth more the aircraft from an economic front as well the fact human will to surive would kick in . Perhaps a crash should allways result in a kill or a penality to the player who crashes . But a wounded plane that manges to escape and land would be rewared some how. If I could make one change to the game that would be it for me .

Great point on comunication if you do auger in and the guy gets riped cause that happens easy down low I have had a blast form somes cannons flip me into the ground that slams me into ground many times , or forces me to overcontrol aircraft more then enough with out a chance to bail. And I try and make a point of telling the guy he killed me . Heck I'll tell people often to save there bullets if im going to pop the chute but I wonder how reliable the coms are some times as I think a lot of it gets garbled or droped for some folks .

Good, thanks for sharing. Didn't know that it gives the kill to who it belongs. Too bad that this bail out is under pause menu, that's why I never use it. But after reading this I will.

That's a fair play :) It happen to me also...
when i met a new player not used to simulation game mode, and i discover me killing him 4 or 5 time in a row without taking any damage, i start to play softer giving him a chance to chase me for a while and stuff like that!

We all have been rookie once! :cool:

I've actually now found you CAN ,every time, give people the kill by bailing out on xbox too. You just have to be VERY quick. As soon as you get a black damaged part on your plane, bail out within 2 or 3 seconds and you can give them the kill, any slower and you will crash though. That's basically what the patch did for PS3, it increased that time limit to a much larger one.

Now, I will keep flying only with a black engine. If I get black anything else I get out.

Bravo Zulu Guys
hopefully this will catch on for more and more players it really improves game play in my opinion. :cool::eek::eek:

thanks RP..i will try that.

Unfortunately Bobby it only works in the patched PS3 version.