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SEE 04-06-2010 08:35 PM

All Bombers can be defeated by correct selection of fighter and tactics but in a dogfight there are too many enemy players and insufficient time before one of them is on your ass, the result often being that the attack is badly exceuted rather than the Bomber being superior!

Soviet Ace 04-06-2010 08:50 PM

DAMN YOU ANTI-SOVIET "FREE" WESTERNERS!!! Always downing superior Soviet technology because of it's greatness. lol (Specially you Pope, I've got my Soviet KGB agents watching you... :P)

Anyway, personally, the La-7 is a great plane to fly but it's bigger than a Yak-1M (The Yak-3) so I stick mostly with the La-5FN, Yak-1M, Yak-1B, and of course the nimble little I-16/I-153. I like the Yak-1M the best because it's smaller than the rest of the planes (excluding the I-16 and I-153,) and has twin 12.7 Berezin UBS MGs and a good 20mm ShVAK cannon to boot. Plus, I find it's more nimbler than the La-7 and harder to get hit.

I don't fly the La-7 all that much, but it's a good plane... just wish there were more missions involving the Yak-1M. :(

ButcherBird 04-06-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 153496)

I don't fly the La-7 all that much, but it's a good plane... just wish there were more missions involving the Yak-1M. :(

the game should allow you to go back and play missions with your aircraft of choice. that really would have added to the replay value of BOP

Soviet Ace 04-06-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ButcherBird (Post 153498)
the game should allow you to go back and play missions with your aircraft of choice. that really would have added to the replay value of BOP

Yeah that would have been nice. Mainly because most of the missions over Stalingrad would have been me flying the Yak-1B or I-16 for most of the missions; and Korsun would have been straight La-5FN, with Berlin as Yak-1Ms. :cool:

gbtstr 04-06-2010 10:36 PM

Hey if the Jug was as ridiculous as the Russian planes (and was the Razorback version - cause they're just so damn sexy) you could have your overpowered yaks, etc. and I wouldn't care.

Lost Apiarist 04-06-2010 10:48 PM

To be honest I don't think i am buying the overpowered Russian planes argument. If that was the case then there would be a LOT more people using them. Fact is 8/10 times I won't see any Russian planes in the online realistic matches I have been playing. It is human nature to try and get an edge, go for the advantage....and people simply aren't doing that when it comes to these planes.

This is by no means an argument to make excuses for my piss poor flying skills lol. Just an observation.

Robotic Pope 04-06-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost Apiarist (Post 153526)
To be honest I don't think i am buying the overpowered Russian planes argument. If that was the case then there would be a LOT more people using them. Fact is 8/10 times I won't see any Russian planes in the online realistic matches I have been playing. It is human nature to try and get an edge, go for the advantage....and people simply aren't doing that when it comes to these planes.

This is by no means an argument to make excuses for my piss poor flying skills lol. Just an observation.

Well the one thing that Spitfires and 109G6/k4's have that the rusian planes don't is the huge bullet sprayability. In a hectic realistic dogfight you need to take down your enemy quick before you get spawned on, so one tactic that is often used is just chuck as much bullet into the air as possible with minimul aiming (this is also a tactic that is best against mini lag as with that much gunfire there is no way every bullet will miss). The La is more like a scalpel, compared to the spitIX/109G6 fire hose. The La.7 is the king in sim were you have more time to aim. I have a feeling that the combat flaps are very effective on the la's and give it an extra turning boost over the spitfireiX in sim

ButcherBird 04-07-2010 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost Apiarist (Post 153526)
To be honest I don't think i am buying the overpowered Russian planes argument. If that was the case then there would be a LOT more people using them. Fact is 8/10 times I won't see any Russian planes in the online realistic matches I have been playing. It is human nature to try and get an edge, go for the advantage....and people simply aren't doing that when it comes to these planes.

This is by no means an argument to make excuses for my piss poor flying skills lol. Just an observation.

no one flies the russian planes because they dont mean much to people in western europe and U.S.

i dont fly the best plane when i play...i fly the planes that interest me. That means i'll fly the butchered P-51 and P-47 as well as the bf109 and FW190's. If i want a plane that can actually dogfight, then i'll play with a hurricane or spit. I'm a really big history buff, but i honestly dont own one book that concentrates on the russian military and if it does mention the russians, its more from the german perspective.

Lexandro 04-07-2010 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 153532)
Well the one thing that Spitfires and 109G6/k4's have that the rusian planes don't is the huge bullet sprayability. In a hectic realistic dogfight you need to take down your enemy quick before you get spawned on, so one tactic that is often used is just chuck as much bullet into the air as possible with minimul aiming (this is also a tactic that is best against mini lag as with that much gunfire there is no way every bullet will miss). The La is more like a scalpel, compared to the spitIX/109G6 fire hose. The La.7 is the king in sim were you have more time to aim. I have a feeling that the combat flaps are very effective on the la's and give it an extra turning boost over the spitfireiX in sim

Thats exactly my feeling about the LA-7. It handles brilliantly, but the cannons are very difficult for me to get on target properly. The lack of sprayability hampers me online, where as the the various spit's have the MG's for making a "wall of bullets" that I can be sure will hit the target. The cannons of the spit I find to be much easier to aim primarily thanks to the MG's and being able to "see" roughly where your rounds are going to hit, giving improved accuracy.

If it had been commisioned with even a pair of wing mounted MG's, It would be up there as one of my first choice aircraft.

Soviet Ace 04-07-2010 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ButcherBird (Post 153545)
no one flies the russian planes because they dont mean much to people in western europe and U.S.

i dont fly the best plane when i play...i fly the planes that interest me. That means i'll fly the butchered P-51 and P-47 as well as the bf109 and FW190's. If i want a plane that can actually dogfight, then i'll play with a hurricane or spit. I'm a really big history buff, but i honestly dont own one book that concentrates on the russian military and if it does mention the russians, its more from the german perspective.

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