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tetleytea 02-05-2010 03:20 PM

I just beat the Frog on turn 1. LOL!!!! My stone skinned Knights hit him and he retaliated for 43 damage. My pallies critical hit him and he was dead.

Spider was just as hilarious. He summoned his spiders, the Giants stomped and there were like 4 still alive. Turn 2, the boss was dead, but because of the 4 spiders still alive I was able to resurrect my 3 fallen Knights. :)

DragonBlaster 02-06-2010 06:25 PM

I just succeeded killing the Spider with one stack of 7 trolls. I am mage level 27 with 66 mana. I gained 77k experience from the battle!

Spells used:
Calm rage level 2
Stone skin level 3
Fear level 3
Fireball level 3 (1700 damages in center, I don't remember how much Int I have)
Mana Ring level 2

It is just about reaching an hex with only 2 others hexagons in contact. From there I cast Fear on one of the spiders stacks in contact and defend from the other (to accumulate Rage). If the Spider is on one side, I use stone skin and attack it with the trolls. If the Spider is out of reach I Fireball it (which also lower the spiders stacks around, but without killing them otherwise new stronger stacks come in play). All the hexagons are fast full of spiders, but it does not matter. When the spider is dead, I finish off the stacks one by one with Calm Rage giving always some mana. The only problem is the poisonous spiders, but some Fireballs can lower the stacks under 300, which the Trolls can handle.

7 trolls, no loss! With a full army I lost 54 assassins 5 trolls and 60 barbarians. Enjoy the one stack army in Mage ;)

DGDobrev 02-06-2010 06:30 PM

77k?! The spider is 12.7k XP on impossible with a Ancient Knowledge scroll on.

Did you play a lot of turns so that the summoned spider stacks grant you all that extra XP?

Zechnophobe 02-06-2010 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonBlaster (Post 142130)
I just succeeded killing the Spider with one stack of 7 trolls. I am mage level 27 with 66 mana. I gained 77k experience from the battle!

Spells used:
Calm rage level 2
Stone skin level 3
Fear level 3
Fireball level 3 (1700 damages in center, I don't remember how much Int I have)
Mana Ring level 2

It is just about reaching an hex with only 2 others hexagons in contact. From there I cast Fear on one of the spiders stacks in contact and defend from the other (to accumulate Rage). If the Spider is on one side, I use stone skin and attack it with the trolls. If the Spider is out of reach I Fireball it (which also lower the spiders stacks around, but without killing them otherwise new stronger stacks come in play). All the hexagons are fast full of spiders, but it does not matter. When the spider is dead, I finish off the stacks one by one with Calm Rage giving always some mana. The only problem is the poisonous spiders, but some Fireballs can lower the stacks under 300, which the Trolls can handle.

7 trolls, no loss! With a full army I lost 54 assassins 5 trolls and 60 barbarians. Enjoy the one stack army in Mage ;)

Yeah, assassins and barbarians probably aren't the right troop for that fight. I just beat it no losses with Paladin on impossible. Army was:

6 Red Dragons, 6 Green Dragons, ~130 Royal Snakes, 9 Bone Dragons, 7 Arch Demons.

Cast stone skin on everything the spider can hit, and then just pound away on him. Note that I had Twinkling boots, Slippery Cuirass, and that one dress for a base of 43% physical resistance.

Instead of a single stack of titans... why not 4... and royal snakes?

DragonBlaster 02-07-2010 08:14 PM

Hi,

yep 77k, I don't know where they come from (maybe because I play in normal). I do kill a lot of spiders stacks during the 90 rounds it takes with my technique! I use a single stack to benefit from the Fear spell /Troll regeneration trick. With several stacks I would have to defend on different fronts. Basically this technique uses the fact that when ALL the hex have a summoned spiders stacks the Spider boss becomes harmless if not in contact... And those stacks are level 2 so subject to Fear. When the boss is killed I have to finish all the stacks 1 by 1...

I note that using 1 stack Paladins I would have almost the same effect because I could Res them.

DGDobrev 02-07-2010 08:40 PM

Interesting. In that case, a stack of trolls, decent physical resistance items and some low-lvl stone skin can easily mean a lot of XP that can push one into higher level if he/she's willing to extend the battle. Pretty cool.

Zechnophobe 02-07-2010 10:01 PM

So there you have it, Giant Spider is the easiest way to get arbitrarily large amount of experience. The stacks will EVENTUALLY become too big to kill, but I'm sure that Stone skinned Red dragons could last quite some time against such a foe. Hmm, which troop would be the best for this? Reds? Trolls? Trolls have an obvious advantage, and if you have some fire and poison resist gear to throw on them, it'd help a lot... but they don't damage very quickly.

It is an interesting thing to think about.

DGDobrev 02-07-2010 10:37 PM

You need something with both physical and poison or fire damage. Trolls should do it, but the chance of spawning poison spiders is bigger than flame spiders. Maybe a decent stack of Black Knights with splinter and some fire protection gear on them will rule, because if everything's ok, you'll need evlin every 10 turns or so, which is bearable, because you'll be gaining mana through lvl 3 transmute constantly.

Elias_Maluco 02-08-2010 12:36 PM

Im yet to understand this whole "no-losses" trend. What´s so wrong about loosing some units once in a while?

Metathron 02-08-2010 12:58 PM

Nothing per se, it's just to spice things up for those veterans who find the game too easy. Mind you, in Armored Princess, the incentive for no loss battles is much higher, as the game will reward you for it by giving you leadership (the Grand Strategy medal).


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