Don't shoot down devilis in his B17 unless you want a verbal tirade. Gilly will vouch for that.

Funny thing is dk, branko didn't know you could switch to manual gunner view until I told her a couple of weeks ago!! Came as a bit of a revelation I think!!!

Haha! Bark worse than his bite! Doesn't help when we keep winding him up! Has become a bit of a laughing point when he starts, always ends with him challenging his agressor to a game of fight night!!

i can vouch for the "aces mentioned above"... been shot down quite a few times by them :grin:

Ha ha, no way! Branko cracks me up. Keeps sending humerous messages before the game like "don't hurt the lady".

Yeah I've had that one. Quite comical how she throws the B17 around in CTA!

To get the best effect with the b17's guns, try setting up a custom layout and set the left stick to elevator/ailerons, the right stick to freelook, and change the guns to R2. Set l1 and r1 to throttle up/throttle down and leave the rudder off, you won't really need it.

This allows you to shoot and aim at the same time, which you can't do with most of the layouts. So you can strafe any approaching plane with ease.

The only real blind spots for the b17 gunner are the exact 3 and 9 o'clock, and directly above. If you're attacking someone who knows how to shoot below them, flying under them is suicide. After attacking them in training lots of times, I got the best results by flying above and beside them at a distance till I get in front, then dive towards them at an angle, from about 2 o'clock from the top or the side. Just like a head-on pass with fighters, it's harder for the gunner to hit a target when there's more closing speed. After the pass, fly away at 90 to 60 degrees angle to the direction the b17 is headed, then repeat.

B17's weren't hard to shoot down in real life. Check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpnIiln14NM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyJAl...rom=PL&index=4

The first one has inspired me to keep trying to knock down 4 to 6 with one 109 in training, but so far I've managed it once with a k4, and it took a while.

The gun-cams in the second one, in BOP they would have been blown to bits in seconds. The 110 was just parked right behind a b17 leisurely strafing all 4 of its engines. Try doing that to a b17 in BOP.

sounds stupid but you should really avoid hurricanes on arcade they're absurdly overpowered on that mode(even more than usual) you get a lot of noobs who simply get on your tail and spray you. I've had my p-47 ripped to pieces on arcade by trigger happy hurricane pilots

play sim. the hurri failed at sim... ^^

Hurricanes in arcade can be a pest but they are normally outclassed completely by the Spitfire. A decent arcade player will eat novice hurricanes for breakfast.
On the other hand an arcade ace in a hurricane is a different matter. I know 3 hurricane aces in arcade that I know I cannot get a one on one kill against in my spitfire. I will get out turned and shredded in no time.
I wont fly a hurricane though, I hate its roll rate and its guns. The more cannon the better in my books