I was wondering.. I'm rubbish at sim because I keep going high, but, whilst I've been getting shot to bits I've noticed that given enough altitude you can keep a badly damaged plane in the air for quite a bit (I'm getting good at this, unfortunately). I'm starting to think that it's more to do with the fact that most kills are low to the ground and you've no time to try and get it back so it's still a "flyable" plane and the game is treating it like one?? Just a thought.

It's so bad I've started to drop my landing gear when my engines been wiped out.. just so it's more realistic for the guy behind..

Might be the 'efficiency' (accuracy so to speak which shows on ranked leaderboard). Can't think of anything else but have seen people with more crashes and same kills win. Either that or its random (or screwed up)!


EvangelusE (Gamertag)

Yeah it's weird also how its only the PS3 leaderboards that are messed up. The xbox leaderboards (apart from how it sometimes forgets how to count, and that Team dogfights sometimes don't count for some reason) are pretty much ok.

I play sim, why do i play sim?

for enjoyment and a challenge. Leaderboards and wins etc dont really bother me to much. Sure i like to win!! but who doesnt?

the only thing i would like (other than the enjoyment and challenge) is for my kills to be higher than my deaths. If i get just 1 kill and no deaths... then as far as im concerned thats a great game. I killed one of them and helped the team while not being shot down myself and helping the enemy.

I can understand peoples attraction with leaderoards etc and more so your anger at certain planes being screwed up :(

i was fortunate that they made my beloved hurricane one of the easiest to unlock :D and a joy to fly :P

more so when i have a wingman flying one to who knows how i work.

I think the game doesn't want to award kills for inflicting minor damage on a plane, so as long as nothing on the plane has black damage, it considers it flyable and blames the death on its pilot, no kill awarded. It would be better if any plane that crashes with 30 percent total damage, or at least one red wing, count as a kill for whoever caused the most damage

since they will never do that, I think the best possible fix would be for every crash to be -5 points, whether anyone gets a kill for it or not.

If everybody has more crashes than kills, I say everybody loses.

Gets my vote Kozzmo......... better if the scores were based on kill to crash ratio. I would also like to see Limited F/A in SIM mode as the only option but with the option of re-arming after a succesful period of time flying (or landing).

Good point, never thought of that.

I can understand competitiveness and I can understand wanting to be given recognition for your achievements, I just think that XBL (and maybe PS3?) places far too much focus on it. When someone screams at you over the mic that you've "stolen their kill" just because you took a quick shot at a plane that passed through your crosshairs, I think it's gone a bit far. Especially when it takes place during a TEAM battle. I think this game is at its best when people work as a team, and individual recognition isn't a part of it. Everyone doing what they can for the team makes for a much more enjoyable game IMO.

Same goes for most games, especially BF 1943.

Stealing kills will happen in the dogfight sessions wether on purpose or accidental. After all, every one is your enemy and all's fair in love and war! :grin: Doesn't bother me........

Ha ha I love that, when someone tries that on me when I'm in my Hurricane firing guns. They speed past me to get closer to the guy I'm shooting at, and fly straight into my storm of machine gun bullets. ;)

I personally would like to see the patch asap simply to encourage more players to go back online.