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luthier 12-04-2009 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jg2001_Rasputin (Post 124990)
Could you provide us with a little more information regarding the italian torpedo?

Do you mean the 17.7" (45 cm) F200/450 x 5.46 type torpedo (german designation: F5W) ?

List of italian torpedos:
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTIT_WWII.htm

That's right, that's the torpedo.

We have a lot of B&W photos of it, where it mostly looks like the body was left unpainted bare metal, and the head was either also bare metal, or painted various colors. Definitely looks like more than one color on different photos, so we're kind of confused. Were there different sub-variants that were painted differently, or simply no standard at all?

[Edit] And yes, this is for the BR-20.

Also, thanks everyone for the other answers, but keep it coming!

mark@1C 12-04-2009 07:55 AM

I can do nothing else,but a Google searching,may it help you.
and this time I will focus my searching on Radio Navigation and so on.
I"m not sure what's your meaning of "quick".If it's not in a very hurry.I can do searching like this every time I've got some leisure.
and maybe you can put some Information Requests to us(all your fans) once a week,for example.I believe it's a pleasure for many fans to help you.

some results from Google about Radio matter,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Beams
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...fare_equipment
http://www.taphilo.com/history/WWII/...vigation.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEE_(navigation)
http://www.vectorsite.net/ttwiz.html
http://www.cvni.net/radio/nsnl/nsnl1...l124ww2de.html
http://www.carc.org.uk/html/archive2.html
http://www.xs4all.nl/~aobauer/knickebein_fug28a.htm
http://www.486th.org/Photos/AC2/MkySet.htm
http://www.spitfirespares.com/Spitfi...adio%202l.html
http://elshamwolds.50g.com/cologne1942.html
http://www.pdf-search-engine.com/avi...stems-pdf.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oboe_(navigation)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~aobauer/Navigati.pdf
http://s110605900.websitehome.co.uk/...eam-main-a.htm

HenFre 12-04-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by luthier (Post 125154)
That's right, that's the torpedo.

We have a lot of B&W photos of it, where it mostly looks like the body was left unpainted bare metal, and the head was either also bare metal, or painted various colors. Definitely looks like more than one color on different photos, so we're kind of confused. Were there different sub-variants that were painted differently, or simply no standard at all?

[Edit] And yes, this is for the BR-20.

Also, thanks everyone for the other answers, but keep it coming!

Hmm.. This actually concerns me alot to hear. Especially that last part about the torpedo being for the BR.20 :confused:
I did not know a lot about the BR.20, but since your request have done a study of it on various sites on the internet. On every site it is said, that the BR.20 was never used as a torpedo-bomber and never was concidered for this role.
Do anyone or you Luthier have another angel on this?

Here is some of the homepages I have visited:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbird.../fiatbr20.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_BR.20

luthier 12-04-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HenFre (Post 125216)
Hmm.. This actually concerns me alot to hear. Especially that last part about the torpedo being for the BR.20 :confused:
I did not know a lot about the BR.20, but since your request have done a study of it on various sites on the internet. On every site it is said, that the BR.20 was never used as a torpedo-bomber and never was concidered for this role.
Do anyone or you Luthier have another angel on this?

Here is some of the homepages I have visited:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbird.../fiatbr20.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_BR.20

Errm I think we had a little bit of a miscommunication here, or rather a little mess-up on my part. It is indeed not for the BR-20. :shock:

But we still need the color anyway.

Also, any info on any Italian armaments would be appreciated. What's the difference between a 100M and a 100T, etc?

HenFre 12-04-2009 11:23 AM

Great.. Crisis averted.. We can go down to DEFCON 3 again :grin:

Here is one picture, that I believe shows the head of the torpedo being coloured and the main body being metal:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/...e85887a9_o.jpg

(I think the strips on the head should be painted red and white)

Just found this on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cl69qp5O78

luthier 12-04-2009 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HenFre (Post 125225)
Here is one picture, that I believe shows the head of the torpedo being coloured and the main body being metal:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/...e85887a9_o.jpg

(I think the strips on the head should be painted red and white)

Thanks! We have tons of B&W photos, and I think the striped head one is a training torpedo. But we need to know what color to paint ours... I doubt we'll be lucky to find a color period photo of one,and modern ones don't look the same. I think our best bet is some sort of a period document that lists different munitions type and their colors, like we have for other nations.

150GCT_Veltro 12-04-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by luthier (Post 124830)
2. Any info on Italian radio navigation equipment installed on the BR-20? We have some, but we could use a manual, or at least a detailed descriptions of what knobs one needed to turn to do what to which gauge.

5. What color were Italian torpedoes?

rgr, i'll ask for official info.

HenFre 12-04-2009 12:50 PM

I will show you some colour fotos I found:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2590/...89b081c7_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/...d8617f48_o.jpg

(torpedo type: Silurificio Italiano)

150GCT_Veltro 12-04-2009 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 125154)
[Edit] And yes, this is for the BR-20.

Wait a moment please. Torpedo for Br.20?! No torpedo for this bird, but only bombs. Where did you hear about it?

HenFre 12-04-2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 125223)
Errm I think we had a little bit of a miscommunication here, or rather a little mess-up on my part. It is indeed not for the BR-20. :shock:

But we still need the color anyway.

Also, any info on any Italian armaments would be appreciated. What's the difference between a 100M and a 100T, etc?

Do not worry Veltro. He has allready stated above, that the torpedo is not for the BR.20 :)


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