nope i know this is a 360 thread but my gripe is the following for ps3

1)need to be able to remap controls(I fly large expensive RC airplanes in mode2 so mode1 type settings on the game pad will = the loss of models and or damage and injury )
2)with the stick/hotas choices we have to select from to correct my above problem its either choose one that is rudder on/off(almost impossible to use) or another that you cant look around to see were everything is at(real prob in sim). let alone no brakes, no wing man commands etc.

just those 2 things renders my game useless in my eyes. struggled through the campaign on realistic, and that is as far as i went. its collecting dust now.

Well hopefully when ever the patch comes all should be fixed.

If COD MW2 sucks as big at COD WaW does, I don't think that we really need to be that concerned.

It also has to compete with the vastly superious Operation Flashpoint and Bad Comapny 2, bearing in mind that Bad Company 1 magnafied just how much WaW really sucks.

The COD francise is now aimed at kids below the age of 16 and dumbed down so much that serious gamers steer clear of them. It all started when COD 4 arrived and has gone south ever since.

Folks still play BSM and BSP for the ariel action and these are the folks that bought BOP.

Anyone notice that the average BOP, BSM or BSP is aged between 20 and 50 years??

Anything that attracts the kids away from the grown up online games is welcome. Halo ODST helped clean up a whole lot of online games and it keeps the "Squeekers" occupied.

No-Ive never played either. I have flown hundreds of hours over many years on Warbirds, Aces High and IL2 on PC. I employ energy and angles tactics, but get the most enjoyment out of a fight that degenerates to co-E angles. That kind of combat requires being able to fly the edge of the stall envelope better than the opponent. Bop currently has little or no auditory clues to let you manipulate that fine line. I miss that and the patch is supposed to address the issue as I understand it. I also enjoy being able to fine tune my shot with precision control. The current deadzone issue does not allow that kind of control. I await the patch
to solve these issues for me. Thx for your positive words while I wait.;)

Actually, I'm not sure that's true. They said they'd fix the P-51 by adjusting its fuel load, and since that's been said people have been speculating that more flight models might be fixed like this as well. Devs haven't said anything about that though.

Everyone's always bagging on WaW, I thought it was great. Especially that mission in the Catalina :)

Waw and MW2 are made by companies that respect their players, which is what makes the so succesful, they both have active members who keep you up to date with everything going on, and if a MP issues aries and is in need of a patch then they get onto straight away and keep you updated daily with the latest.

Unlike this cowboy outfit that promises a patch then goes quite on us, to amerge a week or two later posting GERMAN COCKPITS!! screen shots on the pc forum.

A joke!!

for WaW and MW2, the active members are JD2020 and fourtwozero

I know people think of me as a dev fanboy and whatnot, but you have to remain fair to them.
The devs have been supportive, listened to us regarding the fixes needed, and promised to work them through. Now I know the update is frikkin late, but, to give the devs the benefit of the doubt, we don't know why. I'd love to have some info about this.
Furthermore, I think it's unfair to compare IL2 with huge games like CoD. There's a lot of money made from CoD sales, so they don't have to think twice about making and publishing another update.
What makes CoD and MW so popular is the extreme noob-friendliness of the games.
And about the 109 cockpits for PC: this is not done by Gaijin (360 devs). So there's no reason whatsoever to use this as an argument.

The crash thing has happened to me a lot where I've been shot down, but not blown out of the sky, lost control of my aircraft due to the wings being shot up, then the victor didn't get the credit. Kind of a big prob, a lot of the times people might not even be crashing on purpose, but just losing control at low altitude with damage and while trying to erratically maneuver at low speed, happens to me all the time. I need to get better!

Some other planes will also have lower level of fluel load in the update.