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play2often 10-02-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mattmanB182 (Post 107460)
Ahh but i guess there is not really much of a point to unlock the 190 :(.

the fw-190 f8 that u unlock by using the D3 can carry bombs ( 550 kg of bombs to be exact ) but to do so you must win 20 dogfights or team battles:-x

Tudorp15 10-02-2009 09:19 PM

I was asked this just today. Since I also have the B-17, suddenly I am supposed to be a SAC pro.. lol.. Anyway.. No, just because it has the capability to drop bombs, or bombs are loaded, doesn't quality if as a bomber. It has to have a Bomber class designation. That doesn't mean it has to be a big ugly flying school bus, but just has to be a bonifide bomber. The Stuka for instance, is a Bomber. It is a dive Bomber, and it qualifies, if you want something that you can also kinda dog fight in. I have the P-47 too, which is also really a dive bomber, but it does NOT qualify, because it is in a "pursuit" class planes. You can tell if you are in a bonifide bomber as it is seen by BOP, if your plane shows up on the radar as a triangle. Fighters, or pursuit planes show up as a circle. I got my B-17 by doing missions with the Stuka for awhile with some help with bigger hitters. The Stuka isn't fast enough to do it on it's own. But, after I got the jet powered Armada, that is actually a good bomber. It doesn't have any defensive guns, but, it can outrun most of the fighters anyway. I used it at full throttle and got a rack or two of bombs off before their fighters even got to me. I would retard the throttle to about 60% to slow down over the targets, because at 100%, you would overrun your targets and not hit much.. But, if flown right, the Amada is a good bomber to get a lead on missions, and end up with your B-17.

On your last question, I too see some all fighter teams, which doesnt make sense to me. They are apparently in it just for an easy kill against a slow flying school bus. But then again, the team I fly with also has fighters, and they are needed. For two reasons. I fly the school bus, a fighter or two stay with me to cover my six. The rest of the fighters, stay over our airspace to take out any school busses that come for our ground targets.. So, yes, there is a huge purpose for fighters in strike games, and a bonifide one if you are playing strategic. Even during real war, fighters most often escorted bombers to their missions, as well as patrolled to protect their space.



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Originally Posted by NephilimUK (Post 107328)
Since I have already unlocked the B17, (by flying bona-fide bombers and winning 50 games), I am putting this question for the benefit of my gaming buddies who do not relish being a big target (cowards :-P) and can't seem to get the hang of using the defensive armament, preferring to whizz around in Stuka's..

As far as I can gather, simply having a plane that can drop a bomb or two does not count.. ;)

Whilst I'm on the subject, wtf is it with everyone choosing fighters in games of strike? :confused: - I know that it's a cheap way of racking up some (easier) kills - but surely, helping your team get a win is just as important?


Tudorp15 10-02-2009 09:27 PM

The Ju87 is the stuka, and yes, it is a Bomber class plane. It is considered a dive bomber, or sometimes a "fighter/bomber". And yes, simply being on the winning team gets you the credit torwards your school bus. Which brings up another point. Most the time, I hide my B-17, until just before the timer starts the game. It irritates the hell out of me, so see people that are not normally on my team, as soon as they see the B-17, they jump on my team. It isn't that I mind someone I dont know on my team, but, they do it, even when it makes the team unfair, say 4 against 1. They do it, simply just to get a gaureteed win. Sometimes, It makes me want to throw the match or not drop a single bomb just out of spite.



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Originally Posted by NephilimUK (Post 107331)
Thank you for that answer, :) - but, to be more specific, does a Ju87 count as a bomber for the B17 unlock?

Perhaps you could also clarify what a 'win' actually means? Eg: Does this mean getting the most stars in a round, or simply being a part of the winning team?


play2often 10-03-2009 12:57 AM

i'm pretty sure the il-2 is a bomber since it appears as a triangle, but then again it's taking a suspiciously long time to unlock the b-17. i've allready gotten the trophy for winning 50 strike games, but 10 of those were in a 109 (to unlock he-111 h3), but i got tired of using heavy bombers so i'm using the il-2 (not the il-2m, just single seat il-2, to avoid confusion) but i still haven't gotten the b-17. so either i'm on the verge of getting it, or the il-2 somehow isn't a bomber, or maybe i'm just losing my mind from playing toooo many strike games......:-):evil::-x:eek::cool::o;):-P:mad::confused::confused:

Tudorp15 10-03-2009 01:15 AM

If it's a triangle, it's a bomber. You are probably pretty close then.. I got mine about 10 strikes after I made Strike Champ..


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