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swiss 02-05-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CharveL (Post 220769)
the proper resistance out for the "twisty" axis

Mine has almost none - at least compared to the X52. :confused:

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momentary switches
They do what?



Awesome thread btw, I love you guys for all the info you share. :)

CharveL 02-05-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss (Post 220774)
Mine has almost none - at least compared to the X52. :confused:



They do what?



Awesome thread btw, I love you guys for all the info you share. :)

The twist should have at least a bit of resistance and spring back to center easily but as to how it compares to another stick I couldn't tell ya.

The switches are for the trigger and all the other buttons. Forget what they're called or the part number offhand but I have some extras at home. Just that if you find sometimes your keypresses aren't registering on a button or the trigger than it's time to replace them.

rakinroll 02-05-2011 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Azimech (Post 220510)
Then you're out of luck :( Buy a USB version and keep the other for spare parts. It was already a problem with XP, it's impossible with Vista or 7.

Oh man... it is bad to read that. Thanks anyway.

Chivas 02-06-2011 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by swiss (Post 220236)
Post moved from original thread:


Ok, just went for some evaluation flights:

I think it's broken.

Ffb comes and goes whenever it likes, sometimes the stick stays ffb free for several seconds.
The ffb itself does feel like you were moving the stick over some tiny knobs or something.
Actually unflyable.

Win7 Problem? I'll give it a try on the xp machine later this afternoon.

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Update:

* FF=1 in config
* FF disabled in GUI(seems to disable the "rumble" effect, resistance is still there)
* calibrated stick
* Power light is on, didn't see any flickering or dimming


I guess(and/or hope) it works now the way it should, of course I can't compare.

Should the resistance feel like your were moving soft plastic over the coil of an e-motor?

The only way I can get the MSFF2 centering tension is disable FF in the GUI with windows 7 64bit. I don't need the FF effects, but the centering tension is critical. As you already know your hand must cover the sensors on the stick will flying. I also find its best to set the elevators, ailerons, and rudders with a gradual slope from around 30 to 100 in the input section.

Mad G 02-06-2011 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rakinroll (Post 220423)
Guys, i have MSFFB2 but it requires midi port. How can i use it via usb? Midi to usb changer did not work.

Nope. You need a sound card with gameport like Sound Blaster Live than get a driver on the net for gameport leaked By Daniel K and only works with XP.

Mad G 02-06-2011 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CharveL (Post 220769)
I've had to fix one of mine a couple times because of failing momentary switches by soldering in new ones. This was a few years ago now so my memory is bad but I found the switch type online and by some wierd chance the manufacturer had an outlet that just opened in my city. I just walked in and bought a bunch of them for dirt cheap.

It's a bit tricky putting together the handle once it's apart and the spring can get put in the wrong position which takes the proper resistance out for the "twisty" axis but I didn't bother fixing it because I have rudder pedals and don't need it anyway.


If I´m not wrong these switches are tactile switches model B5 from Oron, and yes, the handle is a pain to reasamble.

You still can find this great joystick second hand in amazon and ebay. The discontinued production line was one of the bad decisions of Uncle Bill.

rakinroll 02-07-2011 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad G (Post 221219)
Nope. You need a sound card with gameport like Sound Blaster Live than get a driver on the net for gameport leaked By Daniel K and only works with XP.

Ah, great to hear that. I will try it mate. Could you please send me a link for midiport program?

Azimech 02-07-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad G (Post 221221)
If I´m not wrong these switches are tactile switches model B5 from Oron, and yes, the handle is a pain to reasamble.

You still can find this great joystick second hand in amazon and ebay. The discontinued production line was one of the bad decisions of Uncle Bill.

They were forced to due to patent infringements.

Mad G 02-07-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rakinroll (Post 221407)
Ah, great to hear that. I will try it mate. Could you please send me a link for midiport program?

Guess are these http://digiex.net/downloads/download...-daniel_k.html. Seems that Creative was pissed off with the guy and was willing to suit him by the time.

Mad G 02-07-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Azimech (Post 221446)
They were forced to due to patent infringements.

Really!? Well, he should payed the royalties and keep us happy!:rolleyes:


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