Originally Posted by jasonbirder (Post 31622)

As I see it, the biggest contributors from a third party point of view are the skinners and campaign writers that develop for the offline market and the creators of third party utilities like DCG, Mission Mate and Mat Manager – again developed for Offline play…

Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 31620)

i get it now, having an 1-16 with the engine of a 190 and the guns of a hurricane doesnt really matter as long as it takes the places of the original rata ?

mm i think there might be a flaw there in your logic ?
takes the place the fm dm and wm of the rate. so it will look like a mutant, but behave like a rata. this is where people swap out the fm of one model so you get a do335 that flies like a lerche.



dont be shy now, if you dish it out be prepared to be treated the same in return. when the lot of you starts to behave in a civilised manner, i think most others here will treat you the same in return.
ha fat chance. most others maybe, not you. it started civil, look where it is now.

what is it with your bunch, do you have a brand new clone typing at the keyboard each time you logon and everything needs to be explained to you again ?

- links demonstrating cheating with the use of the soundmod files have been posted
it got removed
- specific examples of the type of cheats in use were given, mirrors, gyro's etc.. and were addressed
- demonstrated non authorized planes in full real restricted servers being used didn't show the entire process, ie a fraps vid as requested
- franken monster plane examples given and? that alters appearance, not fm/dm/wm
- others from your own hack crowd confirmed here and "there" that checksum 2 doesnt work, even if you keep doubting me. i doubt you because i have not seen it, like i said, pm the direct links

you seem to expect from me that i am going to post links to some of the actual hack files, or spend half a day creating some horror planes myself just because some doubting Thomas on some internet forum cant use google.
the onus is on you to prove what you say, i ain't doing the leg work



err is that why you keep posting here ?
only because you do zap, just for you

i'll have to disappoint you, its not why i am posting here, everybody has already lost , even if you dont seem to realize it.

Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 31621)

now go tell your mum you'r being rude to nice people on the internet again !

Originally Posted by Lo0n (Post 31627)

well, there are several thousand who would argue that... and to be quite frank, it is people like yourself who will finish the community off, co-existance is entirely possible, nay, desired by most. however you and your ilk will not let this happen and will instead stir with the insults and accusations when you get righteously owned online.

Originally Posted by Lo0n (Post 31628)

nice? hahaha that's a good one zap. real good. oh my sides.
how old are you exactly? the quality of your insults and the way you behave is reminiscent of an upset infant.

Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 31633)

is it ground hog day where you live ? you keep spinning around in circles chasing your own tail

and what with all these RTFM errors with you lot, if you cant be bothered learning the quote system for online forums, dont expect people to to decompile the soup of text you posted and try and find something meaningful in it.

Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 31634)

you'r getting less coherent the more you post,

lol you'r reacting like Inspector Dreyfus in the pink panther movies

drooling a bit, getting a few twitches ?

try and focus on the thread subject, its always posted at the beginning of the thread in the title

Originally Posted by Rama (Post 31624)

Absolutly not. I know a lot of casual offline simmers that bought the sim, played a bit, then garbaged it. Number of buyers isn't representative of offliners.
In fact, neither you or me do know the number of actual active offliners.... so please don't pretend they represent 95% of the players... you just don't know.


You can have a better way to count. Currently almost 25% to 30% of the players each night play AW (Airforce War). All AW players are registered, go on AW site and count.... you'll get around 1/4 (or less) of the number of online players.... except casual players of course.


I did say that?.... I said exactly the contrary... please don't distord my words.
Just ask yourself a question: how many planes, cockpits, maps, skins, tools, missions, campaign, online wars were made by onliners from the begining of the sim up to now?
Whitout this work, The sim would have been far to be as important as it is today. It would probably be unsupported today, and played only by a few nostalgics.... maybe with a small second life with a small modder community like CFS3 for example... but not more.

In any case, the debate is biased. Offliners and "free modders" have all what they want... why would they deny to the onliners some real protection in 4.09 (which is all they can hope) ? Give me any good bloody reason?

Originally Posted by Lo0n (Post 31637)

bill, you're of course right. but then the idiots are left to do all the talking when they should be shown the door to let the reasonable people get on with it.