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Feathered_IV

05-27-2012 11:18 PM

Hmm, isn't every new aircraft free to all users, to fly with or against as AI or online allies and opponents? It's only the cockpits that they sell.

Frequent_Flyer

05-28-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 429665)

I wish they would. Luthier is a very nice guy and has the best of intentions. He does not have sufficient foller me for leading a project though. I remember him saying that some of the staff at MG "hate his guts" for some of the scheduling decisions and design choices he made. On the other hand, Albert over at RoF is a rather fierce ex-army noncom who really seems to know how to get it done.

I belive Luthiers may be forced to finish BOM, who knows when, and than open the game up to the community to develop the interesting theaters of operation. Based on the pace ( or lack there of) of COD's development.

Skoshi Tiger

05-28-2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 429673)

Hmm, isn't every new aircraft free to all users, to fly with or against as AI or online allies and opponents? It's only the cockpits that they sell.

How can it be classed as free?

It's distributed to MY PC, at MY cost, wether I want it or not just so they can sell their add-on. In fact I am blackmailed into downloading it. If I don’t download the patch ROF becomes non-functional and I am not allowed to run the software I purchased.

Nothing in this world is free, if someone tells you that, they’re lying!

Sorry for taking this thread off topic, lets get back to the update.

Thanks B6!

CrazySchmidt

05-28-2012 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SPUDLEY1977 (Post 429263)

DX9 + sequel = backwards: Based on the CLOD business model (which is the opposite of the long term successful IL-2 - a now defunct company) they are working backwards focusing on DX9 as well as the sequel - which we will not buy as CLOD has shown to be a failure, without redemption nearly 2 years later with more bugs and incomplete. It was less buggy before they started downgrading, patching, injecting Alpha code as seeming proof that they cannot fix it as promised.

As many have inferred it will only fail as the market is not DX9 based + since CLOD was sold in a pre Alpha stage + nearly two years later the sole programmer who is employed is focused on a Sequel to generate a few new sales $ for a bankrupt project. What else CAN they do with the new 1C Maddox business model? The actions seen by the independent consumer is a veil of misrepresentations in order to avoid current/inevitable bankruptcy. Why would the consumer spend more money and receive no concrete product in the exchange?

We are all very disappointed but our flight clubs will not buy another sequel unless CLOD has been redeemed by The Company in a VERY BIG WAY from the initial release. We have already honoured our end paying the Sales Price but the company has not honoured their end.

Hope for the best but we won't toss More money (sequel of otherwise) into the bottomless pit. A sad lost cause. :(

Jeez, I couldn't possibly have said it any better myself.

Sums up my view exactly.

CS.

carguy_

05-28-2012 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kristorf (Post 429652)

I paid my £50 in advance for a complete game, in good faith like many others, and I feel that I have been let down with no 'fix' in sight, just more lame excuses and so whats from Dev's.

Thank you for giving us the 214523534532th post of the same substance.

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And before the flamers start, I have been loyal to 1C for years and still fly IL2 as part of a squad three times a week.

Uhuh, so that makes your rant a constructive comment somehow?

carguy_

05-28-2012 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 429636)

This is one time I truly hope you are a man of your word!

With that said..

PLACE YOUR BETS!!

2 days tops ; placing 5 infraction points on the table.

Feathered_IV

05-28-2012 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 429684)

I see. I hadn't considered that frequent updates and addons were a form of blackmail.
If I may ask, how do you feel about the hidden cost of getting into your car to drive to a shop when you want to purchase something?

Force10

05-28-2012 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 429696)

There isn't a whole lot that is free in ROF to be honest. I have spent too much money on planes thinking they would be working on the career mode as they went. I have 26 planes in my hangar collecting dust because the career gets very stale, very quickly. There just isn't enough going on..I'm talking about in the air. Kinda lifeless. I understand their business model, but I need something to do with all this stuff they're creating. I have stopped purchasing stuff until they work on the career mode for now, and everytime I see an update from them, it's about another plane or weapon mod and the career is left out and has been virtually unchanged in 8 months. I'm guessing they aren't really working on it since they figure it's not really a revenue generator. In my case, they are losing revenue since I'm not spending money now since I'm not really using the stuff I already bought. Something tells me that a company that can charge $8 for a scarf and pistol, can figure out a way to get money from the career mode.

Feathered_IV

05-28-2012 03:32 AM

I can sympathise. Maybe one day clod will get a career or single player equivalent of its own. For now the RoF CareerB is all there is for offliners like us.

Skoshi Tiger

05-28-2012 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 429696)

I see. I hadn't considered that frequent updates and addons were a form of blackmail.

If there is a patch to be downloaded in ROF you cannot click on play off line. If you do you get a friendly message telling you to down load the patch and you have the choice of downloading the patch or writing off the massive investment made in the sim. It wasn't all ways worthless (freely downloadable), I think I paid about $80AUD plus the planes I've bought. I can't even install a playable copy of the game from the DVD I purchased. To me that's a form of blackmail. If I don't do what they tell me there is significant cost.

Why won't they let me play the game I've bought?

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Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 429696)

If I may ask, how do you feel about the hidden cost of getting into your car to drive to a shop when you want to purchase something?

Hidden costs? I don't think there are any? I service my own vehicles, pay my licence, the rego, insurance, fuel and other consumables, pay my taxes, part of which go to maintenance and development of the required infrastructure . I even offset my carbon emission through solar power at home.

I pay them all for the privilege of driving my oily old car that should have been scrapped twenty years ago, because I am, in essence, a motor head!

Still, when I go and buy something I do factor in the time and cost of going to get it into the price. Doesn't everyone?

Back to the update. Since the beta and hotfix my performance has been really good. I wonder what the other graphics and performance improvements will be?

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