Official Fulqrum Publishing forum - Friday June 17 Update

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When the regular Friday updates began and the developers posted screen shots and asked for feedback I pointed out that some of the tracks in the fields were a modern feature created by the recent practice of crop spraying using wide booms and such tracks would not have existed in the 1940's. As it happens the tracks are still there but so what? I would not be so arrogent and rude as to suggest the developers are a bunch of idiots who need to immediately correct any mistake and inacuracy just because I happened to spot it. It is not my game and I have no right to make such demands. No one objects to inaccuracies being pointed out - it is the highhanded demand for an instant correction that people find a little tiresome. As as been pointed out, a few portholes a few inches out of place have a pretty marginal effect on game play.

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Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 299124)

You have a valid point but, you need to reread your original post here...it came across as condescending and mocking a bit.:grin:

It fits right in here then...
I find it strange that of all the questions posed in this thread, the developer just chose to answer one about port holes,and it looks like he was wrong anyway!
A German minesweeper is an odd choice, but its not the first odd choice made with CoD,or il2.
Lets see what the patch brings, but if CoD is still inexplicably tied to steam for multiplayer,with all the problems that is obviously bringing, this game has a long way to go.

Originally Posted by Doc_uk
The battle of britian was not just about aerial combat
Read this, and enlighting yourself
http://www.iwm.org.uk/upload/package...ain/phase1.htm

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 298914)

Never said it was all about aerial combat, I just said this sim is fucussed on the aerial dogfighting aspect, no enlightenment needed here.

And if you are going to try and accurately portray the battle of britian, by makeing a sim, Then the least they could do, is Do it right:grin:

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This whole being grateful and obedient attitude really gets up my nose. We have been sold a Yugo that was advertized as a Rolls Royce to use bongodriver's car analogy for pete's sake and we are still here pointing out errors and mistakes because we want to help them improve their product instead of throwing it back in their face. If they are offended by it, there is obviously something very wrong with their attitude.

When I bought this game for 50 Euro several months ago it was unplayable and still I ventured through testing it and creating an entire thread regarding the FMB and issues I found and stuff that could be improved and not a single comment from one of the devs regarding it. I offered to help them with new basic content, like bombs for the Luftwaffe that are missing as I already rebuild the entire lot for Il-2, but again nothing.

So don't tell me how to conduct myself. Even though I have been sold a pre beta product I am not holding a grudge but constantly trying to help and make an effort to improve this game.

I'm not telling anyone to be "obedient". I'm saying that the way you go about making corrections, requests and "offerings of help" is rude, and frankly, I'm not surprised that you got no replies. Paying for the game, no matter its state, is not an entitlement to be stuck-up and pompous the way you seem to be presenting yourself. If you showed some respect or gratitude, I'm sure the team would find the time to look at what you can offer.

I know...lets all get into an argument!! :-)

The 'He said this, and you said that' (and the rudeness too) is really not encouraging the developers to do their best work for us.

Thanks Luthier for all your hard work, and all of your co-workers too.

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Originally Posted by Doc_uk (Post 299132)

Originally Posted by Doc_uk
The battle of britian was not just about aerial combat
Read this, and enlighting yourself
http://www.iwm.org.uk/upload/package...ain/phase1.htm

And if you are going to try and accurately portray the battle of britian, by makeing a sim, Then the least they could do, is Do it right:grin:

Well.....yes I can't argue things should be done right, but does that mean every little detail? like making sure the sailors on the deck have the correct size flared trousers, whats right for some is just exessive for others, should it include hours sat on a deck chair listening to a grammophone and smoking a pipe waiting for the 'scramble bell'?

This is the thread I created about the FMB. http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20024

Introduction: "As I can't actually play, with a constantly crashing launcher and a slideshow on DX9 with a DX10 card, I spend most of my time in the FMB collecting questions and bugs to report."

That is neither rude, stuck-up or pompous, it is plain honesty, something that a lot of people here are in desperate need of.

Btw., I stopped collecting any more points after No.27 as it became just pointless.

If the developers rather want to have these threads full of people crawling on their knees kissing their feet for delivering stuff that was promised years ago to be in the release which itself should have been playable, so be it.

I'm not advocating fanboyism, I'm advocating sensibility. You showed none in your initial request in this thread. If that's too much to ask for, then good day to you.

sometimes people are being accused of crawling on their knees and kissing arse just because they don't criticize, there seems to be a habbit forming in this forum for making bug reports, but for the most part they are just individuals own experience, not everybody has the same bugs, but those that do have bugs just assume everyone else has them too.

without a doubt there is an excess of whingeing and moaning going on here and some of us are getting sick to ******* death of it.

one of the best topics since gamerelease ->
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23405