...and the Steam haters are usually effin dinosaurs :-P- fess up, how old are you grandpa :)?

+1 the levelling of moaning here is beyond appailing, how dare ppl complain who else would even bother to make a highly detailed ww2 aircraft simulator when you can spit out games like cod and other fps year after year with no upgrades, minimal work and get paid 1000 times more than 1c will for il2 cod and that's after 6 years of development so everyone moaning here STFU and be glad your even getting a product like this and one that is not watered down for consoles

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I see suporters of steam here, all of tham say "i have 10-80 games", it keeps pc gaming alive, and so on.
Well, i must say that il2, bf 1942 and bf2 were the games worth playing, and pc gaming has no quality since. They are on my home comp and on my qosmio laptop.
To see Cliffs of Dover close to publishing, brings warm feelings to my hearth.
I have large estate out of city, and ejoy summer, sometimes winter months there. And i dont have internet there. Why? Because lan gaming has some special feeling. To bring frends in live contact is above any steam or battlenet or any other anti social software.
So, steam? No way. Not at home, not on my estate.
I do fine without auto updates, i like my comps without startup software, comercials, virus like software that keeps haunting you with various offers.
Lets keep things cousy and warm.
Steam is for other type of games, not this sweetie we all have been waiting for. Or give us option at least.

Not gonna happen and it's the fault of hackers that these drm software are in use, it's the typical case of a few ruining it for everyone else.

I think all you need to do is activate the game once install steam then turn on play offline and you can have your LAN game. Inconvenient yes, a show stopper? not unless you are too stubborn to accept the inevitable.

But there IS no problem playing Steam games without internet... I played both Hearts of Iron II and Red Orchestra that I have bought through Steam with my internet cable pulled to test. No problem at all (RO is a bit useless without Internet but it works fine). A dialog just pops up asking if you want to go to offline mode and all games work just fine. Tried CoD Modern Warfare 2 as well and it worked great too - even though it is heavily Steam integrated...

How is Steam "virus like?" It is a piece of software you choose to put on your PC that runs or doesn't run at your whim.

What type of games is Steam for?

As I've said before I don't really care if someone doesn't want to use Steam, and I can understand and respect that decision, but making up false claims is unacceptable. There are things I don't like, and so I don't use them or things that associate themselves with them, but I will not create facts or make bold statements that are unbacked to justify my reasoning. It is perfectly fair for someone to not want Steam, but be honest about the service itself.

All Steam games where cracked on day of release. You can get illegal copies of every game that's out there, so the only thing drm successfully supresses is the market for used games.

This whole thread looks like this:

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What do you see?

IMHO ubisoft and 1c should have done it like dcs a-10,you put in your serial for install and then you can play offline no probs,but when in multiplayer you have to log into your account which has your serial stored on their website,and that with people who pirated the game cannot access multiplayer.

LOL ... that is EXACTLY what Steam does.