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Seadog 05-19-2012 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Seadog (Post 427330)

You do know he was being sarcastic just to get at goering right?
I see some people who actually believe galland wanted spits which is just not the case.

Crump/Kurfurst believe that the Merlin could run at 12lb boost on 87 octane fuel with greatly improved performance. If their thesis is correct, and Galland also knew this, then, of course, he would have tried to light a fire under Goering's butt.

Kurfürst 05-19-2012 11:29 PM

Son, you have had some issues expressing a coherent thought of your own, so I guess you should fix that before lending a hand and tell what others believe.. ;)

Seadog 05-20-2012 06:18 AM

Just what do you believe?

It's hard to keep track.

We know that Hurricane/Spitfire pilots were pulling 12lb boost over France in May 1940, and we also know that you are "cynical" about the RAF using 100 octane fuel in that time frame...so it seems that you must believe that the Merlin could run at 12lb boost on 87 octane fuel.

Glider 05-20-2012 07:39 AM

Kurfurst
Just so there isn't any confusion what is your belief re 100 Octane in France?

Kurfürst 05-20-2012 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Glider (Post 427689)
Kurfurst
Just so there isn't any confusion what is your belief re 100 Octane in France?

AFAIK Hurricane Squadrons used it, not that it helped them that much, given the results of the campaign. I don't think it has any relevance for BoB, given that all the fuel in France was either destroyed by the British or captured by the Germans.

bongodriver 05-20-2012 09:43 AM

are you saying all available 100 octane was lost in France?

Kurfürst 05-20-2012 10:02 AM

Obviously no, it's what you are suggesting.

What I am suggesting is that the fact that some Squadrons were using it over France is irrelevant until we know how and if they were supplied with 100 octane fuel once their remnants returned to England.

bongodriver 05-20-2012 10:06 AM

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it's what you are suggesting.

Where does that failed logic come from? I suggested nothing...merely asked a question.

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until we know how and if they were supplied with 100 octane fuel once their remnants returned to England.
How and if are redundant questions, if it was available in France then it 'will' have been available on the homeland, if Hurricanes were already using it then they would have continued to do so, there is no evidence of any retrograde steps in that area.

JtD 05-20-2012 10:58 AM

If they were using 87 Octane in the BoB, a tiny bit of evidence should have turned up by now. Instead we have a lawyer doing the Chewbacca defence.

fruitbat 05-20-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JtD (Post 427713)
If they were using 87 Octane in the BoB, a tiny bit of evidence should have turned up by now. Instead we have a lawyer doing the Chewbacca defence.

:grin:


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