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Seadog 05-18-2012 07:23 PM

Note: these examples are all from May 1940.

Here's an example of 12lb boost at low altitude:

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/lane-26-5-40.jpg

here's another:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...e/bushell.html

note here that the pilot is using "full" 12lb boost and he has noted that he was at 5000-6000ft.

and another:

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...e/bushell.html

again at 5 -6000ft and again with 'full' 12lb boost

The idea that that they were using 12lb boost with 87 octane fuel could only be conceived by someone who desperately wants to avoid the truth.

Kurfürst 05-18-2012 08:10 PM

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0-page-004.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0-page-002.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0-page-005.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0-page-006.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0-page-006.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...00octane_2.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...0-page-004.jpg

Seadog 05-18-2012 08:16 PM

[QUOTE=Kurfürst;427304]

and your point is?

Crumpp 05-18-2012 08:56 PM

Quote:

Nonsense, the documents showed quite clearly how much fuel was already in France (attached) and other papers in the series showed the projected requirements.
Your document says absolutely nothing about fuel "in" France. It talks about requirements and estabilishments.

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3...ocks7may40.jpg

Glider 05-18-2012 09:10 PM

Present Establishment is what they currently are authorised to have plus they need an additional 200,000 gallons. In the same way the additional guards are an extra establishment. The current guards would be described as the present establishment

If we follow your logic then the RAF in France had no fuel of any description because you are turning all the current fuel (present establishment) into future requirements.

Kurfürst 05-18-2012 09:19 PM

[QUOTE=Seadog;427306]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurfürst (Post 427304)

and your point is?

Cynicism.

Seadog 05-18-2012 09:28 PM

[QUOTE=Crumpp;427314]Your document says absolutely nothing about fuel "in" France. It talks about requirements and estabilishments.

Why would they require a fuel that they aren't using?

Are you now claiming that UK technology was so far in advance of the Germans that RAF fighters could use 12lb boost with 87 octane fuel? We have clear and unequivocal use of 12lb boost over France in May 1940...

According to your line of reasoning It's no wonder that Galland begged for a squadron of Spitfires...

Al Schlageter 05-19-2012 12:00 PM

We are still waiting for the list of the 16 squadrons that were the only squadrons using 100 octane fuel and 12lb boost in Sept 1940.

We are still waiting for an explanation on how the RAF consumed ~50,000 ton of 100 octane fuel during the BoB, despite the claimed shortage of said fuel.

CWMV 05-19-2012 02:25 PM

[QUOTE=Seadog;427330]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crumpp (Post 427314)

According to your line of reasoning It's no wonder that Galland begged for a squadron of Spitfires...

You do know he was being sarcastic just to get at goering right?
I see some people who actually believe galland wanted spits which is just not the case.

bongodriver 05-19-2012 02:29 PM

No he wasn't, he was sick of those little girlie 109's and wanted a mans aeroplane :)


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