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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 465523)

Sadly due to a lot of misinformation put out by some people there is this since of being ripped off, lied too, broken promises, or as you put it being blackmailed.

There is only one way to get past this false feeling to see the truth..

Sadly not too many people are up to the challenge..

THE CHALLENGE:

Step one of the challenge is to list all the so called broken promises..

Note for some this will be hard to do, because most of the poster only say 'broken promises' never actually listing any specific promise. For some they do this on purpose to keep the lie alive and whip up others into thinking there is a long list of broken promises, for most of the rest, they do this only because they got caught up in the lie that there is a long list of broken promises.

Step two is to provide a reference and/or link to the source of each so called promise, this step is key in that most of the so called broken promises where NOT promises at all! They were simply features that Oleg and others at 1C have talked about over the past 10+ years of some of the things they would like to do, or are trying to do at that point in the development of CoD. Another reason to find and post the link to the source of the promise is that over time what was actually said is very different from what is now being said and thus taking on a life of its own to mean something very different, seeing the original promise should clear this issue up. Than there is the whole opinion aspect of a feature in the game, take AI for one example, some consider the feature in CoD to be top notch and others consider the feature to be broken! Linking to the original promise of said feature will help those see how human expectations can not only far exceed what actually possible to do, but what was originally promised.

Only after completing these two steps will you begin to realize just how short the list is..

At which point should be able to get past this feeling of being ripped off, lied too, and or blackmailed into buying the sequel to get what you think you were promised in CoD.

In the mean time..

Take note of how many people will take issue with what I just said, and resort to attacking me personally over taking up the challenge..

Why?

Well because some here are very vested in the idea that there is a long list of broken promises, and anyone that tries to take this away from them will be attacked (kill the messenger).. The good news is all those that do only expose themselves and their true agendas

I assume you haven't or don't want to read the questions and answers by Luthier then,
" Have you seen how many times the same questions are asked, and if so
Why are they not being answered unambiguously, or a way that appears deceptive?
Why is there so much emphasis placed on the sequels process when most want CoD fixed?
Because we’re a business. Our goal is to make money. Fixing Cliffs of Dover does not bring in any money, and it has not pretty much from the start. Even if we spend another year working on nothing but Cliffs of Dover and release a super-mega-ultra update with co-op, blackjack, and hookers, how many copies do you honestly believe the game will sell?
Then the entire team can happily go and look for a new job, preferably in a third world country where it’ll be easier to hide from our investors".
Surely even your rose tinted glasses can see this.

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 465903)

I am hung up on the word?

Don't confuse me repeating what you and yours say as an indicator or proof of me being hung up on a word

I am simply repeating what you and yours are saying on a daily bases..

As for luither admiting this or that..

Note I never said he didn't

My only point you and yours are missing is that there are not as many broken promises as you think there are

Hope that helps! S!

PS I noted that you didn't offer up an examples of a 'broke promise' either

Oh my...Ace just loves shooting from the hip on a daily basis. Just like he put his foot in his mouth at the beginning of this thread with OP...comical!

You keep saying "you and yours". I would challenge you to find a post where I said the dev broke a "promise"...but I can save you some time. I think it would be very hard to find a dev that actually used the word "promise" in the history of video game developement. But releasing a promo vid and showing videos of things that were meant to be in the game was "misleading".

Not that I don't mind being a victim of Ace's hip shooting...it's just getting old. He kind of reminds me of a ship still firing it's guns as it is sinking under the water. The devs admitted COD will not be fixed to even their expectations and is over and done. Kinda sad that Ace just doesn't let it go. It's probably evident since he doesn't post any cool screenshots, talk about interesting missions he flew, or lead by some sort of example by actually playing the game.....posting here is all he's got.

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Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 465904)

I agree....people would have a valid argument for using a "Promise" for features listed on the BOX cover, or official release website, but there are few of those listed. The vast majority of the posts that proclaim broken promises in the forums were never made by the developer. The developer has stated that this is a WIP and features would be added as game and system resources allowed thru the life of the series.

Wheuuu..

Thank you Chivas!

For a moment there I thought I said something wrong..

But based on the fact that you get it..

Tells me those who don't get it..

Just don't and won't or choose not to get it!

S!

Ace-of-Aces can you read this thread and add your name to the list. You just wind people up, maybe you get your kicks by doing this, but its is getting really tedious. You have your opinion, fair enough, but your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's.

Please for the love of god wind your neck in.

I won't be responding to any response from you, this is just a sincere plea to you to stop being so antagonistic and turning every thread you enter into a tiresome squabble.

Please.

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