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Matt255 07-04-2010 11:30 AM

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I know that WW2 fighters had very stiff wings, but ALL wings flex
Well i read that about the Spitfire wings.

Not sure if the wings of the other planes flexed that much aswell, especially the short and "compact" wings of the 109.

Would be great to have this in the sim, still no priority for me and i doubt we'll get that anyway.

airmalik 07-04-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Abbeville-Boy (Post 168232)
knowing oleg i bet the smoke size depends on the size of the leak feeding it, whats burning, and the weight of the oil being burned and a few other factors :-P

Agreed. I haven't seen many cases where Oleg's overlooked details that us casual forum members can point out and which are not due to tech limitations.

The smoke at first glance seemed excessively dark/large to me but I was surprised to find how closely it matched some pics I shot at Oshkosh last year:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2618/...4ddf920d_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2730/...ff55b070_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/...aaab3e87_o.jpg

I'm pretty sure these are fuel 'bombs'.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...8&d=1278064719

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...6&d=1278064578

Les 07-04-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Flutter (Post 168301)
Wonderful pictures Oleg!
...Will there be wing-flex?...

Oleg's previous answer to this was -

"When we will have in future the planes where it is visible in reality – probably yes. But say on Ju-88 – it is invisible (at least in flight with high G for sure)"

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...flex#post28675

Les 07-04-2010 05:21 PM

Hate to state the obvious, but it looks then like the SOW flames should be less hard-edged and more connected to the smoke, blending more smoothly into it. In reality it's the density of the smoke
in the foreground that gives the flames behind them the appearance of being hard-edged. As you say though, the technology might not allow that.

Flutter 07-04-2010 06:30 PM

more flex
 
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Originally Posted by Les (Post 168358)
Oleg's previous answer to this was -

"When we will have in future the planes where it is visible in reality – probably yes. But say on Ju-88 – it is invisible (at least in flight with high G for sure)"

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...flex#post28675

Thank you Les, I did not know about that thread. But seeing that the reply dates back to 2007, and that the answer is "probably", I would still appreciate an up to date answer from the master himself.

Spinnetti 07-04-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by airmalik (Post 168334)
Agreed. I haven't seen many cases where Oleg's overlooked details that us casual forum members can point out and which are not due to tech limitations.

The smoke at first glance seemed excessively dark/large to me but I was surprised to find how closely it matched some pics I shot at Oshkosh last year:

I was almost in your picture (just to the right on the stand) ;)

KOM.Nausicaa 07-04-2010 11:05 PM

Smoke looks spot on.

Jones11C 07-04-2010 11:54 PM

Smoke
 
Have any of you seen the smoke from an aircraft explosion? Perhaps more simply put, the smoke from any fire where oil and fuel are mixed? Added other petroleum materials? Here's some perspective: The aircraft I fly has engines that burn at over 800 C. That's contained combustion with metered fuel and controlled air provisions. An exposed heat source to the elements, mixed with it's own volatile components and fluids, will certainly produce extremely thick, dense, and nasty smoke -- with terribly hot fires associated.... Oleg, looking great. You guys seem to know a thing or two about aircraft in every respect. Constructive criticism is good only when it contains intelligent insight.

I can't wait for your product to come on line. Guaranteed purchase from me.:grin:

LoBiSoMeM 07-05-2010 01:58 AM

Beautiful smoke and fire effects.

And to keep it simple, watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNg91...eature=related

I assume the SoW : BoB WIP smoke and fire effects showed in the screenshots are very like the fire and smoke after the P-38 crash in video (1:20)... :cool:

Perfect work!

AdMan 07-05-2010 03:17 AM

there was different smoke types in il2, white, thin black, heavy black, etc why wouldn't there be in BoB?


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