There I explained that responses would not be now.

You would be wise to not respond to such questions...leave them with no stage

Well, you and the rest of the clingers can be damn sure it isn't this friday, as he posted a thread specifically stating NOTHING THIS FRIDAY! Thus, this thread is pointless!

Are people here so sad that they have nothing better to do than post to moan that there will be no update for one week!?

Next update patch?
 

Tentative date for the next patch?Someone knows?

Not this Friday. And also no update.

Because they have some holidays.

This is from February 17th Friday update:

"Graphics-wise, we’re dealing with a last-minute issue as we speak. We rather unexpectedly found a problem with our aircraft decals, i.e. the code that places crosses and roundels and chevrons etc on top of the aircraft paintscheme. The code is being rewritten, the work should be finished in about 2 days. Once it’s done we can take much more accurate benchmarks. We’ll post then when we have them."

Make what you will about it because frankly, nobody knows when there will be a patch released, probably not even the devs themselves.

i Smell it allready, next week. :)

New rumour :)

I agree the devs really don't know when the patch will be released until its finished. The typical scenario has the developer fixing bugs in the new patch, test the bug fixes, fix the bugs the bug fixes create. Its usually endless until they either fix them all or say to hell with it and release the patch if the outstanding bugs aren't critical, with the idea of fixing them with the next patch.

[QUOTE=II./JG27_Winter;397430]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NsecWc158l...oming_soon.gif[/QUOTE

:rolleyes: :lol:

yes they do!... since about October ...last year!!!

Well, the following was posted by B6 at the Sukhoi.ru forum today (google translated):

So - obviously it's not ready yet so no late night surprise today that I had hoped for ;)

hmmm...in CLOD it goes...

Release sim with bugs...patch and fix bugs....create sound bug with bug fix...wait 4 months....fix sound bug with patch...create CTD bug with patch...wait 4 months......

I dont recall anything like that happening with CLOD Chivas, they didn't even test the game never mind the patches, all the patches released thus far have created as many problems as they have solved.

+1

I'm Hoping for some patch news tomorrow from Black Six in the Friday Update.Hoping :)

Bottom line is we are all losing patience with them!

There will be no update tmrw!... as previously anounced!

Bummer :( I didn't hear that,Thx for letting me know.

Just speak for yourself, please.

Speak for yourself.

Decile a Kretina que te saque un patch para todos y todas jejeje

Yes, please leave the WE out of this please. I'm happy to wait as long as it takes. It'll be worth it.

:rolleyes:

:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

Si, un parche K justo... donde quieras tocar frenos al aterrizar seguis de largo como bondi lleno... si no perdiste un ala en vuelo antes.

Sorry for the OT gentlemen :D

Odd, I was under the impression I was happy to wait.

So no patch today, huh?
 

my eye hurtz aaarg

I believe its close though....

From an above sticky:

8, 9 and 10 March in Russia will be a holiday and weekend.
We do not work these days. So on Friday will not update.
Please keep this in mind. Thank you.

I don't know how I missed that post. I could have sworn it wasn't there a minute ago.

yep, it's either:

1) holiday in Russia (someone really needs to re-think their strategy?)
2) very soon
3) two weeks
4) when it's ready
5) we're almost there, we just needed to re-code everything from scratch...again.

It's been a year now.. how long do we have to be fooled about for? Cliffs of Dover will never be a complete product, end of story.

This is sarcastic btw..
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why have they not released it exeptionnaly on wenesday ?

I'm sure that was a Herman Hermits song?

It went something like

“No patch today, my love has gone away
The PC stands forlorn, a symbol of the dawn
No patch today, it seems a common sight
But people passing by don't know the reason why

How could they know just what this message means
The end of my hopes, the end of all my dreams
How could they know the palace there had been
Behind the door where my love reigned as queen

No patch today, it wasn't always so
The company was gay, we'd turn night into day

But all that's left is a place dark and lonely
A terraced house in a mean street back of town
Becomes a shrine when I think of you only
Just two up two down

No patch today, it wasn't always so
The company was gay, we'd turn night into day
As music played the faster did we fly
We felt it both at once, the start of our romance

How could they know just what this message means
The end of my hopes, the end of all my dreams
How could they know a palace there had been
Behind the door where my love reigned as queen

No patch today, my love has gone away
The PC stands forlorn, a symbol of the dawn

But all that's left is a place dark and lonely
A terraced house in a mean street back of town
Becomes a shrine when I think of you only
Just two up two down

No patch today, my love has gone away
The PC stands forlorn, a symbol of the dawn
No patch today, it seems a common sight
But people passing by don't know the reason why

How could they know just what this message means
The end of my hopes, the end of all my dreams
How could they know a palace there had been
Behind the door where my love reigned as queen

No patch today, it wasn't always so
The company was gay, we'd turn night into day

But all that's left is a place dark and lonely
A terraced house in a mean street back of town
Oh all that's left is a place dark and lonely
A terraced house in a mean street back of town”
Oh all that's left is a place dark and lonely
A terraced house in a mean street back of town”

To the tune of
[you]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Reqc38YW81w[/you]

either:

1) I think it's because they didn't.
2) They don't know what wenesday is
3) (least likely) because it isn't ready yet





On a serious note, if it was done on wenesday (is that even a day) it would have been released on wednesday.

Please just find blacksix's post about the friday update. Also he has said that friday updates and patches are not related, and they are not working this weekend including yesterday and today.

So really my personal opinion is that this thread is pointless.

no its not

Anyone know the address of the offices of the developers of CLOD?
:-x

Releasing on Wednesday wouldn't have worked too well when everyone got the 'We're not at the office right now...but leave a message after the tone' from the devs on Thursday and Friday when they posted to complain about the bugs ...

Honolulu, Hawaii

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Serious Question.. when do the devs think
 

that CLOD will reach what they consider 'engine complete' in regards to graphics, sound and netcode? Not for the forseeable future? Another couple of years? A shorter term?

Thanks.

About 10 years

from now, because CoD was in development from about other 10 years :roll::roll: so 20 years to do a game... isn't enough?

That´s a positive thing! The old engine was optimized over a period of 10 years as well...

Not like other games, Il-2 lives and grows constantly...

A better question would be...

When do the devs think CLOD will reach the state they wanted at release?

Engine complete? Probably never.
If it's a modular design, things can be updated, changed and adapted unlimited.


Completely playable as a the simulation advertised. Now that would be a term I'd be interested in.

I'd echo what others have said...

CloD won't be "finished" until hardware evolution grinds to a hault and/or they start working on the next engine. :)

Call me one of life's eternal optimists (Or someone who held his breath for too long as a child) but I'd like to think it will be playable fairly soon. :D

Next date patch update?
 

Just that. Any info?
And please, don´t move this thread to "The Crystall Ball" this time. I don't believe in magic or esotericism. I am doing these questions to the developers, not a magician.
Thanks.

Good luck.

you know you need a magician to answer your question? I'm sure (hope to be wrong) we will see other "pictures" of the incoming sequel this friday... :(

The answer is simple and as always "In two weeks be sure!"

yeah, 2 weeks after 2 weeks and 1 year is gone :grin:

seriously, hope to see an SDK also soon and a kind of devicelink, I want to implement a moving platform

Friday 16th Update Questions for BlackSix
 

BlackSix, hope the team had a great break.

Could we have an update on the Patch this Friday and not the Future game

Maybe a list of improvements or something giving the community a bit more of an idea about how the new Graphics patch is progressing. I know this patch is more about getting the graphics engine replaced and not future improvements. Sooooo

Maybe an update on the below: Yes/No

SSAO fixed,
Reflections,
English Map fixes (Bridges added over rivers, Floating Grass fixed, train lines fixed)
Weather,
Triggers fixed,
Train collisions with craters fixed,
__________________

Furbs stick to the thread, Questions are allowed furbs, Just not demands, or questions at inappropriate times, maybe its the way you have put questions in the past that has resulted in you and been backhanded ;) Just kidding! If it gets moved... well it just means someone read it :D

Agreed, but your not allowed to ask questions, Luthier is too busy/on holiday/learning english/working on BOM.... this will be moved/deleted/reported.

Perhaps a new user interface because the one we have at the minute is about as user unfriendly as it gets. Hell I'd have the old IL-2 interface over the current one in a heartbeat and it was pretty bad.

Also some idea of the FM changes would be great, in addition to Wolf's questions.

Would it be possible to program a 1-2 key Zoom/Zoom Out function?
THX

Dear Dev Team/BlackSix, please fill out accordingly.

http://i.imgur.com/8NOgh.png

Speculum,

I think you will find that DX11 code is in the game but first priority is to fix current DX9& 10.

I think DX11 will be in a much later patch orrrrrrr In a later release after this new Moscow thingy coming up.

However, we may get some minor DX11 things before then.. but who knows!

+1 and better if we can do this analog too so we can zoom with hotas rotary or mouse wheel and in cockpit view ofcource, just like ROF and A-10.

Would be a good feature to have. I concurr.

+2

Add to your list:

graphic wise:

Antialiasing! (min. 8x)
Anisotropic Filtering!

additional, after fixing the graphics:

fix the ridiculous square lakes in france

What this one??? Looks real to me :shock:

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=sq...1t:429,r:2,s:0

I actually think this is a very fair request (original post).

Currently I am more interested in what is installed on my hard drive and what I can actually use rather than updates of a future game I wont be buying unless some positive action is taken with the original release.

I have read about the patch, waited for the patch and am still waiting for the patch.

I really could care less about the BOM add-on at the moment, I just want to see what can be done with the original game and if that can be made to do what it should really have done from the start, then BOM may get my money. Currently until the first version is fixed, I'm not interested in any paid for add-ons.

So, the original post would certainly be of interest if the chaps in Russia would care to answer them.

Cheers, MP

I don't have any new information about the patch, except that I have already published. Will this Friday an information update is currently unclear((

It seems that it is better to me to be silent, than to tell though something in a current situation.

No comments. In order to avoid giving cause for new jokes.

Please don't be silent. That's the last thing anyone wants. But you must realize when you announce "we are very close to a beta release" on a patch, most people think "very close" means a few days to a few weeks at most. All anyone wants is to be updated why.

Heck, if you tell us you can't have some sort of beta patch ready because of x,y, or z, people will understand. But if you say I have no information about it, when what we heard earlier was "it's almost ready" then that isn't the right path to take IMO.

Just give us some info. Tell us what the problems are. In doing that people will understand. But saying something is almost ready without delivering or giving a reason why, will set a bad tone.

I'll remain patient regardless, but it shouldn't be too hard to give us some information. This isn't some secret program for the military. We are talking about a video game ;)

BlackSix the vast majority of members here are happy with any info you give us, and the increased level of communication we have now. Please don't be discouraged by a minority.

oops. This one reached the end soon. Actually while i was typing.

@hc wolf

Dude, I don't talk about a little fish pond. ;)

I uploaded 2 pic just for you. :cool: Enjoy. Alt around 10000ft.

I have is exactly the same conflict with users Sukhoi.ru.
Any information and my words cause negative. Updates about the next game cause negative. All slips to one question - when the patch?
I don't see the opportunity to work with forums before the appearance of the patch.

+1

Don't let the rotten apples spoil the bunch.

@BlackSix

I agree with Krupi, Uther and the others. In my oppinion you do a perfect job here and you just gave us feedback and thats also important information. Keep up the good work! :)

I can understand B6s decision. No need to communicate anything until the patch is ready for release.

+1

People don't understand that B6 can't give any information about the patch or the time after, because they will kill him if something is not like "promised". It's better to post nothing until the (beta-)patch is ready and uploaded.

So if i understand, maybe we will have the patch before friday ?? Jk ;). Just see how many people are there on friday to see the update, hope to see that again :)

My birthday
 

Well it's my 44th birthday Friday and, yes, it would be a nice present to receive the patch, however, I suspect I won't be able to fly even if we did get the patch. I'll be forced to celebrate my birthday with my family, no ifs or buts. :grin:

how ironic, as your 44 your post on that is 88.
so we might get lucky? 88's are lucky numbers.
oh and happy birthday

The patch can be ready in any day.
On Fridays we publish information updates about the current situation and the next game. Friday updates and patch are not connected.

But, considering negative mood of users, we can stop to publish information updates on Fridays for a while.

That's the luftwaffe seaplane proving grounds.

Miniminimi... ridiculous ...

Thank you.

Please don't. Stifle negative users but not yourselves, it is after all, your forum.

I'd love to see some more shots of the seasons/Aircraft/Ground Units in the upcoming sequel.

No don't stop i wanna see the IL-2 Cockpit, please! (if possible ;))

I can understand that you are tired of complaints about your product.
However, it seems that not realize of 1 year ago that came out at the sale and is in a phase more than questionable.
As already indicated in a previous post dont know understand or listen to the community, except the people you still unconditionally.
Obviously you are not responsible for the situation of Cod. However, it is the person who has named his company to interact with users of the Simulator. And I am cosciente disrespect towards his person are not admissible.
However, I think that should change some aspects as to how work which they have on the community.

1 An essential aspect is to give more information regarding upgrades that I believe are let or inadequate (this is something very personal each person will have their point of view)

2Nd while it is true that we know are developing a new graphic engine, a good way to reassure the community and help them to identify potential failures is to get updates periodicas (e.g. 1 per month). Obviously with indicators that it is a BETA

3Rd I think that until that does not work the COD perfectly should not get information about the following title. Except for some indicators relative to that developed in the theatre of the battle of Moscow aircraft who will be available. But not focus so much on her already still has not come out to the market and there problems with the cod.

4 º Not give answers as ambiguous as the patch will be any day.
Or will be the day that will be..

This is a set of personal recommendations that I could give to solve their problems with the community.

Carefully SG1_Mino

As a (generally) supportive member of the online community here, someone who appreciates BlackSixes efforts and someone who considers himself to be reasonably patient, I have to say that I think the current strategy of 'no comment' on the patch has become counter-productive and is only serving to increase the general disaffection of many here.

It is obvious that BlackSix is only the messenger and decisions about what info to release are taken by Luthier, so these comments should be taken as directed to him. It is also obvious that given past experiences the policy of 'say nothing' may have been viewed as the sensible one.

I think now though, when the ONLY issue of any importance on this forum to most of us (certainly the ONLY reason why I check in several times a day) is the question of when we can expect the patch, that the issue needs to be grasped in a more head-on way by the devs.

I take on board some of the reasons given by people here as to why they believe there is no need for the devs to address this. In the past I may have agreed with them, but now I think the reasons for not communicating on this are looking tired and unconvincing. I'll give my reasons:

"No need to communicate anything until the patch is ready for release."
It is now 6 months since the previous beta. Excitement has built since before Christmas when Luthier gave indications of expected frame rate increase. The policy of saying nothing is now (imo) needlessly antagonising people.

"People don't understand that B6 can't give any information about the patch or the time after, because they will kill him if something is not like "promised"."

This shouldn't be insurmountable. There is general info that could be given that would go a long way to satisfying people's anticipation and patience and making the atmosphere more 'supportive'. For instance I would appreciate confirmation about whether the next patch will in fact deal only with the updated graphics engine. If so, I would be really interested to be given just a rough sketch of the development progress made in the last 6 months on the other issues we are keen to hear about (AI, fm, DX11, etc) and the planned roadmap ahead for how they will be patched into the game.

I realise that decisions on giving us this info need to be made by Luthier, but once again I think that the current policy has stretched the patience of many of us to breaking point and a subtle rethink could go a long way to releasing some of the pressure that is building.

I dont want to gloat Furbs..... but 4 pages in and well..... YOU BEEN SERVERD!!!!

I don't understand the silence on the status of the patch. I do understand that it's out of B6's scope of authority. He can only give us what they give him. Keep showing us the BoM progress updates. Don't let a few yahoos screw up the little communication that we have. Keep up the good work B6, it's appreciated.

Yea B6 don't let it get to ya most of us are just waiting.

GOD you're all a bunch of whinners :( why is it so hard to wait and if needed do something else for a change. GROW UP!

This place is funny.

Settle down everyone. It was just a post to see if we will get an update. If BS says there is nothing to report then so be it. Let the guys work. The question only went out as it was a long weekend and there was no update last week.

So everyone there is no update this friday so lets all get back to mission making, playing on ATAG and REPKA and having a great time playng a great game :D

i just dont understand the reason why they are so silent about the status of the upcoming patch.
i really dont get why they cant tell us the reason why it was postponed.
why dont they tell us the reason or the problem that occured a week back?
why dont they tell us:"this week we worked on this part of the graphics engine, we encountered some problems with this and that..."
or just:"this week we tried to solve the problem with xy but havent found a solution so far..."

this would keep the community informed and would increase trust in the devs and the product.
but this total silence and ignorance of questions of the community creates nothing but mistrust and the feeling of beeing lied to...

Considered that we are waiting from almost an year, that the game is full of bugs and major issues and that a major part of the people (at least of the ones that i know) who bought the game are still feeling tricked by that release I consider your words offensive.
Now I'm sorry for you as a person Blacksix because i understand that is a very complicated situation, but as you as a worker for the 1C company the only thing that I could say is: it is your work to talk to the community and take also all the bitterness that can come from that.
The 1C lost alot of the trust of the people with their methods as I see from my spot, hoping that it will be resolved by the patcheS (cause the graphic is only the top of the iceberg, a big one for sure), but to act with the customers as they were spoiled children when the brutal reality is the one that I illustrated above is really offensive.

Obviously if offensive and the other words that i used are not too much for the administrators sensitivity..

Thanks B6. While we're waiting I think I'll have a bit more fun and fly a few missions in the Blenhiem. Sinking those unprotected Blue ships is a Hoot! You'ld think they'ld learn! Maybe they've got better things to do! ;)

I do not think honestly that any of us here are negative, just passionate, as you are I am sure, about this great project!

Black6 as one of the more vocal members of this forum i want to say my frustration and questioning of the devs is in no way directed at you.
I think you have a very hard job and are doing your best with what you are given.

Thanks for trying your best in what looks to be a impossible job with little or no info or help from above.

That being said...threats to hold back updates as some sort of punishment after the year CLOD has had are completely out of order and will not sit well with PAYING CUSTOMERS though it probably says alot more than was intended.

Spot on, anything else is just like wearing pink glasses.

+1

I Buy my game.

I get dissapointed with the problems on release but believe in MG when they say just wait we will fix it.

Told with each patch that things have been fixed that clearly have not.

Silence.

1 year later....

Silence.

I wait because I am forced to wait.

Communication finally starts again.

I listen when the community is told the beta is almost ready.

Public scorning now begining by figures in power here when responses are unfavourable to exaggerations of timelines and content.

Then threats of silent treatment start.