It should be a must for the current game, especially on the map the whole game is supposed to be based on, the Channel

The answer to your question is that the game is sold as a Battle of Britain simulator. Take a look at Battle of Britain II: Wings of Victory and the historical battles in that and you'll see the sort of engagements people were hoping to find in this game.

Now I think of it, that might explain why they changed the name from Storm of War:Battle of Britain to Cliffs of Dover. Cliffs of Dover implies the Battle of Britain without actually promising it.

I've played co-ops in CLOD, but of course i works when you play with people you know or in a squad/intersquad framework. Of course the actual format makes it difficult to launch a "public co-op".
The the only difference is that you don't select your plane in a list of available planes like in Il-2.
You can plan your mission the same, then everyones selects the plane he choose on an airbase, spawns, groups with the others to take off to his assigned mission...same happens on the other side. I really don't see what is stopping people to do it in a squad environment :confused:

I have arranged a bombing run with guys on ATAG, that is nothing like a true il2 Coop... Buy 1946 and you will see what we are talking about!!!

I've been playing co-ops in Il-2 for years in a squad, so I know how they were.
I'm not talking about doing pseudo co-ops on a public server like ATAG, but doing co-op missions on a a password room you created for your mission via the in-game multiplayer interface with people you know/from your squad. That you can do with the game. You just need a bit more discipline that's it.

Now I agree that setting up co-op and waiting for random people to fill-in like it was done via Hyperlobby won't work, as you need to be sure that everyone will wait to spawn at the same time. Works in a squad or with trusted people, won't work if the mission is open to anyone, that I agree upon.

As if what you think about me has anything to do with the topic at hand..

But I understand how some can take it personal when long held beliefs are challenged!

And for future reference, the good news is, as an adult, I don't really care what anyone in a game forum thinks about me!

So you and yours can save some time in future posts by keeping your personal feelings to yourself!

This is not a good sign IMHO..

It indicates that you did not read and or understand the challenge..

In that the whole purpose of the challenge it to indulge yourself!

I have already taking the challenge, which is why I don't feel as if I have been lied to, ripped off, etc..

Based on this it is clear that you did not read the challenge.. Note that above you were barely able to complete Step 1, and totally missed Step 2..

That is to say, just repeating 'broken promises' that you have come to 'imagine' exist is not going to help you realize they do not exist..

You have to do both steps in the challenge!

Ok, lets see what you got here..

Now this is a little better!

And is something I can work with to help you separate your imagination and/or unrealistic expectations from reality.

Lets take a look at each issue

1st) Every detail faithfully recreated.. First thing to note, you did not list ONE THING that you considered to NOT BE faithfully recreated, which makes it impossible for me to address your issues here.. Other than to point out you have resorted back to the Alfred Hitchcock scare tactics.

2nd) 25 Aircraft.. First thing to note, no where does it say there are 25 flyable aircraft! Just because you read that and got the impression that there were 25 flyable aircraft does not equate to a 'broken promise'. It is too bad that you never had the chance to fly IL-2 before buying CoD, or just about any other flight sim, in that you would have been well aware of the fact that most flight sims have un-flyable aircraft.

Sorry but your being a little vague here? So allow me to help you clarify your statement with a few questions

Q1) Are you saying CoD does not allow serves sizes of 128 people to join?

If so, I am 99% sure you are wrong! In that I have seen servers listing 128 player capabilities..

Or is this a continuation of your online experiences where 60+ players caused warping?

Assuming that is the case allow me address this for you.. In short it is not the games fault if the server hardware is not up to the task of 128 players, or that the server has the settings so low that they allow people with piss poor pings to join the server. Thus no promise broken here either!

What stuff?

In light of the fact that you did NOT LIST ONE feature (stuff) it makes it hard for me to try and help you separate your imagination and/or unrealistic expectations from reality. And is just another example of the Alfred Hitchcock scare tactics

Agreed, but you have to understand that you would be hard pressed to find any modern game that is release bug free

Everything?

In light of the fact that you did NOT LIST ONE feature (stuff) it makes it hard for me to try and help you separate your imagination and/or unrealistic expectations from reality. And is just another example of the Alfred Hitchcock scare tactics

If you want me to help you separate your imagination and/or unrealistic expectations from reality!

On that note I will say this, changing and or removing a feature does not necessarily equate to a broken promise! No more than adding a feature is a broken promise!

But until you can be more specific (less vague) I can not address this issue of your adequately

As so the many who are playing it day in and day out, both offline and on

Are you asking me?

If so, sorry, I left my crystal ball at home today thus there is no way for me to see what you are doing at this moment or in the near future! ;)

There are several ways to look at that.. One being negative, where you only focus on the negative, Two, the fact that they missed that tells me their focus is on 'other things'...

Now allow me to use the Alfred Hitchcock tactic here in reverse..

Where 'other things' can mean what ever it is to the reader..

If you think the FM sucks, than you can convince yourself that they were so busy with the FM that they forgot to check if the engine starts..
If you think the AI sucks, than you can convince yourself that they were so busy with the AI that they forgot to check if the engine starts..

Sadly most never stop to consider the positive side of Alfred Hitchcock tactic! ;)

+1

Wrong server Krupi. The only historical accuracy on ATAG is the map it's on, and even then they do not use actual place names or historically accurate squadron locations. There are other servers running historically accurate maps and are even suitable for lonewolf action because of the AI, (71st/ACG Combined, Storm of War Campaigns - you can fly with large groups (30+) of bombers with escorts on historical missions to correct locations and routes in those. Strangely though everyone just autopilots into ATAG even when it's rammed full to the point of warps and lag. It is good that there is a place to go when things are quieter but the game gets a dis-service because everyone is in there and nowhere else so everyone has a bad time. I don't want it to sound like I'm slagging ATAG, that's not what I'm saying, but they should cap their limit because the game just can't handle those numbers anyway right now.

Last night 6 squadrons of allied and axis just got together and just went elsewhere, we had a great time over Eastchurch at 14kft attacking 30+ escorted Dorniers on SOWC. Anyone else seeking this mission based action in groups flying together just PM me. Allied or Axis, we cater for all.

Simple question:

How can i start the Hurricanes? ;)

Wait for the gold release on Steam, that's what I am doing.