Thanks for the good honest update nobody can complain about that. The only thing I would like to know, if it's at all possible to answer it right now, is will the list of problems you mention be serious enough to put the patch on hold for months? I see that you have said: "However long it takes" and this is why I think it may not be a straight forward fix, but I know nothing about programming. I know it would be silly to give time frames in here, but just saying it's going to take quite sometime nobody can argue with that. Thankyou!!

Agreed, it's beta and we know those problems, i can live with those problems and happy if they are fixed in official patch :grin:

The whole point people miss with this one is the is no sequel without a 'working' engine, there is no suggestion of the sequel being sold before the COD patches because the patches are what is intended to make a 'working' engine, there has been 'no' suggestion that the sequel will have to be purchased to get the COD patch, but the sequel 'will' bring extra features to COD as a merged instalation....hopefully the dynamic weather everyone wants etc.

+ 1

Of course..... you can type the above till the cows come home..... there will still be those who don't get the point. :D No fixed Cliffs of Dover = No sequel. Just as there will always be those out there who will never grasp the fact that it would be disastrous to force 3D Modellers or mission designers to fix code. :D I imagine some of the people on this forum waiting for a bus and, when the bus doesn't turn up on time, haranguing the nearest street sweeper and asking him why he isn't driving them to their destination. :D

"Excuse me, Ambulance driver! I've been waiting for this Big Mac for 20 minutes and now my fries have gone cold!" :D

Thanks mate. Great vid.
What type of Spitfire is it? (Mk Vb ore Mk IX)? Sorry I am not a pro...

Freycinet said:

>>Just asking: is this kind of posting legit in this forum? Very harsh attacks on fans and developers alike. <<

Good point. I think it falls below the high standards set by youself and others, here and elsewhere. If only more would follow your example, there would be much less nonsense on this forum.

Bongodriver:

>>The whole point people miss with this one is the is no sequel without a 'working' engine, there is no suggestion of the sequel being sold before the COD patches because the patches are what is intended to make a 'working' engine, <<

Nicely put. If only more people knew where they were going wrong!

>>there has been 'no' suggestion that the sequel will have to be purchased to get the COD patch<<

Absolutely no suggestion. Correct, again.

>>but the sequel 'will' bring extra features to COD as a merged instalation....hopefully the dynamic weather everyone wants etc.<<

That's good. Many people have started to doubt the process after the length of time involved, and re-assurances liek this,w ith accurate predictions, are just what this forum needs to 'settle the troops.'

Respectfully, perhaps a Mod might consider turning your posts into a Sticky, or at least gathering them all into once place. Liek Chivas, you seem to have the knack of knowing what's going on at any given time, and it would make a useful reference point for those looking for the main facts from a single source.

We appreciate the energy that you and a few others are putting into all your posts. Please do not think it goes unnoticed by the silent majority.

Thanks Ben, your new found support is great, perhaps you could share the process involved that gave you the massive jump in I.Q. to some of our less fortunate whin.....I mean members.

You realize you're a bit unfair to BlackSix who is from Russia and was initially tasked with liasing with the russian community only? Who admitted he needed an online translator to understand what we say right in one of his very first posts here? Who is, according to his own words, not working with the programmers but does his own work for the yet to be announced sequel and therefor needs to be given information by luthier so he can post anything?

Hell, Germany has a foreign minister whose english is an abonimation and an embarrassment to my nation! And you complain about not-so-perfect English used for posting news on a flight sim message board? ;)

I will try if it would help....? After all, we do not want people left with a misguided impression of where things stand. That would only undo some of the many hours of hard work put in by some of the more frequent posters, and it would be a shame to see such energy go to waste. Let's capitalise on what we have, and build, build, build....