Well there has been this culture for anybody reluctant to join in on the 'criticism' bandwagon to be labelled as sychophantic 'fanbois' who are in denial...

Maybe some have, i never have.
To me the whole development of COD has been a shambles, without direction or someone in proper charge right from the very start.

The way the release was handled says it all about COD.
Its such a pity for all of us, me? im gutted and so disappointed like you just wouldn't believe Bongo, and maybe that's why i do get so heated about COD.

If in 6 months COD has grown into what will all want it to be then i will be the first on here to clap and cheer for the devs and hail Luthier as a genius.

Until then i will post my views good or bad. and i would expect you and everyone else to be able to do the same.

It's hard to keep track of who said what nowadays, but I didn't point the finger at you particularily, but don't forget an oppinion is just that, they are often based on a smaller picture...narrower viewpoint if you like, this applies to both camps, can you at least see that any oppinion when repeated enough will serve nothing more than to irritate other some forum users and do nothing towards 'punishing' the true intended victim (1c, Ubi, Luthier or whoever), we all know that this game has 'problems'.

I really still stand by the idea of a separate venting corner for the dissatisfied, it's clear that alot of people just need to let the hate flow, at least then people can have some threads that don't descent into 'tit for tat'

It could just be possible that the developers have more than one computer to run the game on and that those computers have various specs and they are busy running CloD on those computers and they are getting the same bugs as everyone else and doing all they can to nail them as fast as possible giving priority to the most serious. I am sure they check the forums from time to time but if a bug is a bug then they have it as well. They have posted progress updates and put out patches but if it was me and I just got the same old moans and complaints then I would rather just get on and fix stuff properly and not get so involved with the hardcore of people who think they know more and are cleverer than the actual developers who have full access to all the code and indeed wrote it in the first place. And why should they accept 'help' from people outside their team when they would like as not crow on the forums that they single handedly saved Clod because the developers weren't up to it.

The real nitty gritty problems have already been acknowledged by Luthier and solutions are being put in place. A real contrast to the people who are endlessly bleating on about how they are dissatisfied with a useless game are those busy getting their heads round FMB and scripting missions for the benefit of the whole community or 2GFlea who has produced such an excellent Aircraft Operations Checklist to compliment the manual. That alone should put the moaners to shame.

I believe that unless the game was released when it was in the unfinished state it was in then it would never have been released at all. Sure, some aspects of the game are not right at this moment and it is important to post bugs and errors but it is still an excellent product that is being fixed asap - have faith. The cost of the game is no more than a few hours at a theme park, a meal out or trip to the zoo. Whether or not the rides make you sick, you discover you don't like Italian food and the animals smell, that money would be gone, the money spent on CloD will provide hours of pleasure and fun for years to come. All this negativity makes you sound like a bunch of bored kids going to the seaside wailing 'Are we there yet?'

No matter how much the complainers complain or the fanbois cheer either Luthier will fix the problems and CloD will go on to become a great series like IL2 or he wont and it will languish as a might have been. Forum posts will have little effect either way.

A cold bucket of reality is the fact we are all basically a bunch of kids playing cowboys and indians except that we are pretending to be Biggles on rather more high tech equipment. I know because my wife and kids never pass up an opportunity to point this out.

''My eyes...It burns it burns''

Youve still got a wife n kids?.. your doing well :-)

Excellent post. Objectivity has surfaced.

Yeah, the wife needs the money and the kids are too lazy to leave and I can't go because of the cat.

I think the one thing the complainers and the fan bois have in common is a passion for WWII combat sims and I'll bet my life or to be safe, my mothers, that the second CloD starts cooking the complainers will whip out their joysticks and be on the servers with the rest of us quicker than a greasy weasle.

Personally, being British, I have the national adversion to complaining and making a fuss. Lets face it we let the Americans nick our women, the Germans nick our sun loungers and the Australians wreck our newspapers (and kid us that eating raw sausages in the rain is 'A Good Idea'). But we do try to play fair in a wishy washy cricketing sort of way.

What he said.

Eh... Shouldn't that be mother-in-law... ;) ... Anyway... You're right on the ball, mate!
I paid me money a while back, and hopefully they let go of it on the 19th...
Whatever state it 's in... Well I don't care... That it is buggy... Well I've been blowing my money on this 'hobby' for nigh on 30 years, and I've still not learnt me lesson...
Infact, I've probably spent half that time just getting me system to run every newly released prop sim that's seen the light of day...
Good fun, what?!

Cheers