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philip.ed 01-29-2011 09:53 AM

As much as I agree with regards to the comments on the colours not being final or down to monitor colour, the colours do look too green to me.
One has to remember that the BoB had a very hot summer, so the green colour will verge more on brown. The picture from LIFE magazine (of the spitfire) demonstrates this well.
Either way, I'm sure the team has got the point by now, so let's just wait for the release. Then we can truly comment.
But definately, I think England should have a burnished look. Maybe in the future such features could be incorporated into the weather model? Who knows ;)
Nice update, and thanks, Oleg, Luhier and co, for doing a sterling job in keeping us updated.

Coen020 01-29-2011 10:00 AM

surely, if it's to much lime for most, nothing a patch wont fix? or atleast a mod or something from some of the talented people lurking between us?

sorry, 'Lurking' is my word for today.

Freycinet 01-29-2011 10:04 AM

Oh, yes, we need better updates, just like today's from the Microsoft Flight team. Their first update since December 10 by the way:

http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/

"January 28, 2011 − Play online or offline, the choice is yours.

Greetings to all Flight fans! We would like to welcome you to our January “News from the Team” addition. First off, we hope you like the screen shots. We are happy to be able to share with you another check point in the development process. We are all working hard to bring you a truly exciting experience.

We continue to receive and enjoy all your emails and comments via the Tell Microsoft Flight email alias. Although we cannot reply to each and every one, we do read these and appreciate the comments and suggestions.

One topic that has been voiced is the concern over online game play. We understand some people are worried that featuring Microsoft Flight on Games for Windows – LIVE will require you to always be connected online to play. Not true. Rest assured that you can play offline if you choose. We hope that you will find the connected experience to be more enjoyable and immersive. But to be clear, the choice will be all yours.

Thank you again for following our progress as we pass another waypoint.

The Microsoft Flight Development Team"



Or, as Oleg would have said it:



"You can fly offline, online".



- Then we also get four screenies of about one-tenth the size of Oleg's. Or, well, we get four images of some sort. WE don't really know if they are screenies or whether they are photoshopped or whether they are rendered during half an hour of bit-crunching. As opposed to being told that they are done on an old crappy machine as Luthier tells us about the Il-2:CoD screenies.

And then there is no more interaction with the MS Flight development team at all. We don't even know their names. No forum, no threads, no postings, no replies of any kind anywhere. As opposed to Oleg and Ilya who masochistically dredge their way through endless pages of mindnumbing drivel and interact in a constantly friendly manner.

That won't go on of course, given the total take-over of the 1C update threads by idiots. But it was really nice for as long as it lasted.

Voilà the difference between "real" updates and the usual stuff other developers feed their fans.

kimosabi 01-29-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 218344)
@KIMOSABI - unge, did u ever.....used ur sausage?

Aaaww how sweet, Tvrdi is still disappointed after I told him to stay off my PM in the RoF forums. LOL

Sutts 01-29-2011 10:49 AM

Oleg has spoken of a future map editor to allow players to create small maps. Does anyone know if he's ever mentioned being able to modify the stock maps at all?

Something like that would be very powerful...just imagine what could be done if the community worked together on the UK map with separate teams with local knowledge taking on specific areas of interest. Obviously there would have to be rules and strict guidelines on object density. The same goes for airfields. There are plenty of folks with a deep knowledge of specific airfields who could create ultra historical airfield layouts, something I doubt the development team have much time for in the big scheme of things.

I'm looking forward to later releases when the bomber airfields of East Anglia get some attention. I have some favourites that I've walked around many times. I like to stand on the crumbling peri tracks and try to picture the scene with 30 4 engined heavies, engines running and waiting for take off and the frenetic activity all around. This is the kind of thing that really excites me about CoD...being able to recreate all that history and see it come alive on the screen. A link to the past.

ECV56_Lancelot 01-29-2011 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo (Post 218334)
I've never understood this communities hang up with grass color. I don't live in the U.K., but the colors look fine for me for a mid spring to mid summer coloring. Graphics on a PC have not yet reached the point of photo realism, but this looks damn fine to me compared to the flying I've done in real life. The shade differences in fields, the colors all seem close enough to me. Lime green? I don't see anything close to lime green in any of these photos. You should step outside and look around during spring and summer rather than just looking at photos of outside. The clouds have always been impressive to me. They don't look like the photos of real clouds in other games, but they are volumetric and close enough to the real thing that I have always been suitably impressed. I honestly believe some of you need to step outside once in a while and experience the great outdoors. This community is so insular I have a hard time reading anything other than Oleg and Ilya's posts.

Oleg and the 1c Maddox team thank you for all the hard work you have done to make this, what is most likely the most realistic flight sim (combat or otherwise,) of all time. We all appreciate your hard works, and look forward to the masterpiece you have painstakingly, and sacrificed so much for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 218334)
Amen.

+2

Deadstick 01-29-2011 12:15 PM

Thanks for the update!:grin:

winny 01-29-2011 12:47 PM

Nothing in that Hurricane shot is the right colour. Not the roundels, or the paint scheme or the grass or the gun covers. Why's nobody complaining about the Aircraft? I've never seen a hurricane that washed out.

But,
I've said it before, it's an overall Saturation/Contrast thing not just the terrain.
It's a purley artistic call too. All the screen shots tell me is that it's not finished yet.

jcenzano 01-29-2011 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coen020 (Post 218365)
Different landscape colours

1st: Enland, near London

2nd: France (probably North)

and what makes you thing those are the real colors??

Colors in pictures depend on several things such as exposure, lense type and fliters used, film/sensor used, and so on...

So just one picture is not relevant at all. Download 50 different pisc and you will see 50 different tones... none of them yet to be true.

Plus your monitor calibration...

Foo'bar 01-29-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcenzano (Post 218420)
and what makes you thing those are the real colors??

Colors in pictures depend on several things such as exposure, lense type and fliters used, film/sensor used, and so on...

So just one picture is not relevant at all. Download 50 different pisc and you will see 50 different tones... none of them yet to be true.

Plus your monitor calibration...

Right. We don't even know at witch season the pictures were taken. For me some of the brownish fields look like late summer when it is clear to have darker green tones.


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