Wow.... I go out for the day and the thread doubles in length!

Wolf_Rider, you'd make a great politician or lawyer.

Neither AndyJWest or TheGrunch have an issue with NP developing their own interface.

We all have a problem with games not accepting standard axis inputs for head tracking, for the nth time. We also have a problem with businesses which lobby game devs, to get them to not accept standard axis inputs.

You seem to avoid making comments directly about the above issue, instead changing the question, or choosing to comment about businesses protecting their interests instead, or a completely unrelated issue, regarding NP dealing with "hackers".

Also, Wolf_Rider, you asked for proof of NP being in a financial arrangement with Ubi, in order for them to "moderate" discussion of freetrack. I'll accept that this is not proof, however I have read it on the Ubi forum that there is a "sponsorship" arrangement between Ubi and NP which causes the issue to be "moderated". I'm looking for the post now, but it's a bit hard when the search terms needed have all been "moderated" out.

Wow.... I go out for the day and the thread doubles in length!

Wolf_Rider, you'd make a great politician or lawyer.

thank you for your kind words, but neither take my fancy

Neither AndyJWest or TheGrunch have an issue with NP developing their own interface.

I have noticed that, and I don't believe anyone has indicated otherwise

We all have a problem with games not accepting standard axis inputs for head tracking, for the nth time.

PPJoy and TIR2joy does this, doesn't it?

We also have a problem with businesses which lobby game devs, to get them to not accept standard axis inputs.

why would NP have both PPJoy and TIR2joy listed on their site, for download, if this was truly the case?

You seem to avoid making comments directly about the above issue, instead changing the question, or choosing to comment about businesses protecting their interests instead, or a completely unrelated issue, regarding NP dealing with "hackers".

The true point of the matter is exactly that of NP dealing with hackers... and please don't go twisting things around

Also, Wolf_Rider, you asked for proof of NP being in a financial arrangement with Ubi, in order for them to "moderate" discussion of freetrack. I'll accept that this is not proof, however I have read it on the Ubi forum that there is a "sponsorship" arrangement between Ubi and NP which causes the issue to be "moderated". I'm looking for the post now, but it's a bit hard when the search terms needed have all been "moderated" out.

err, no..... proof was asked of grunch's allegations that NP were locking out other software/ hardware developers, in order to run a monopoly. grunch stated he had no proof, yet continues to make allegation... please don't alter the issue there.

regarding what other forums run by developers/ publishers do in relation to content on their forums, or in their product; why should any developer/ publisher support an outfit which hacks a company's software and (on their public forums) openly supports hacks and intimidation of other companies?

That is a pretty serious allegation, Wolf_Rider. I don't suppose for one minute you are going to back it up with evidence?

check the link supplied to grunch yesterday...

You can't mean this one, surely: http://www.bing.com/search?q=bis+fre...ox&FORM=IE8SRC

That is a link to Bing, with the search string 'bis freetrack abuse'. What is that supposed to prove?

oh do keep trying andyjwest... haven't you shot enough holes in your own foot yet? :)

A simple yes or no question. Was that the link you were referring to?

that's the only link I've given to grunch yesterday andyjwest... is there something you don't understand again?

Yes, I don't understand what the heck this has to do with intimidation. Do yo not understand how a search engine works? Just because it found articles with the words you entered in it, doesn't indicate that they are even referring to what you are, never mind 'proving it. When I looked, this was the first article on the list: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...ogId=439120001

It is in German:Or from Google Translate:
Now provide proof of 'intimidation'.

now you're just being deliberately silly and predictable, andyjwest... grunch didn't have any problem

linking directly would, in my opinion, put me in breach of the stated guidelines for this forum... or is that what you are hoping for?