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BigPickle 08-17-2008 06:08 PM

Gotta post as Nearmiss has creased me up laughin so much over the last 13 pages.
Sadly I agree with a lot of his statements.

I feel sorry for the Admins/Mods here because you are slightly elevated in your responsibility here, and are expected to have a bit more info than the average Joe as is common on 99% of forums, sadly 1C forums seem to be that final 1%. The "Management" are letting you down guys!, don't blame the public for fishing, its not their fault.
People who have passion for a subject will be excited and hold out hope and re-check forums each day hoping to get another glimpse or increase the excitement with the latest news. I don't think I know any other sim community that has more passion than the Flight Simming Community. Shame on who ever it is that dangles a 109e or a Spitfire in front of our noses like the proverbial carrot, fills us full of tales of advanced physics and interchangeable vehicles. Then doesn't keep the community updated.
What did they really think was going to happen?

There are too many ppl who defend large companies to the eye tooth and these companies have generally started to not care about the long and dedicated fans and just care for the gain of money, sadly they know they wont have to face the flak in the forums cos there will be some ppl who will fight back for them. Guys unless your paid by ppl dont bother fighting for a cause that really isn't bothered if you fight for it, they'll get their money if they are defended or not. If the developers are not loyal enough to fight for the community and what we want i.e. to be kept up-to-date often, then dont fight for them, after all its your money you will be spending on this game if it should ever get released.

I have played and stuck with IL2 series from the early days and enjoyed it very much.
IMHO something is wrong here with SoW BoB.
Granted it takes some serious time to make a game these days but seriously, really, do you only expect the little info we have on nearly 3 years of production? and now the publisher we'd been told about supposedly isn't solid either.
You have to ask yourself this:
If you were to walk into these forums today would you think this game was a go? Probably not, because it doesn't even have its own section now, its only because of hope and wanting it that ppl are still prepared to deny an outcome that is not looking too great.

I personally think it will get released eventually but I dont think its a front-line project anymore, either that or there maybe a possibility that the community might have been misled/misunderstood how far along the road of development it actually is.
But, the only ppl to blame for the misunderstanding should be the PR ppl, they really should pay attention to what ppl feel in here or it could spell disaster for the game, when my friends and I first found out about this game ALL of us were really excited now, I'm the only one left who cares, pre-orders have been withdrawn, some even say they cant be arsed at all.

I have listened to nearmiss here, and in the other forums I have seen him in around the FS community along with other members here too, he's got a lot of passion for flight simming clearly or he wouldn't feel so dejected, maybe its because he can prolly see like others and me also, that this is not Oleg's normal style for things to get this way, he has 99% of the time kept the community up-to-date with other title releases, and the PR for the community with SoW has been below par.
I believe the only way the community is going to find out the truth is to all unite and simply pose the question, "Do you want our money for the SoW sim? if so can we please be kept updated in a regular fashion".
Then at least nearmiss could bury that poor old dead horse for good :)

JG52Uther 08-17-2008 06:17 PM

Well I don't know who you are masked stranger,but that was spot on.

Now,prepare to be flamed and told how wrong you are for even suggesting it! ;)

BigPickle 08-17-2008 06:23 PM

LoL I actually took out the bit about dont flame me bit cos I thought it would just incite being flamed.

Tree_UK 08-17-2008 06:53 PM

Well its got to be said that Big Pickle has probably hit the nail right on its head.
I have to agree that something just aint right with SOW.

BigPickle 08-17-2008 07:13 PM

Well if I am wrong then hopefully it will make the PR crew see that the community isn't just whining and that it wants to have the dream of SoW kept alive. The only way to do that is by providing info to keep it alive. But of course only if its actually going to be released.

96th_Nightshifter 08-17-2008 07:53 PM

Perhaps we should all just stop posting in this forum, let the place be deserted for a while and make them post to get our attention. We are all just going around in circles, getting a scrap every 3 or 4 months or so and then rinse and repeat we are left speculating and arguing for another 3 or 4 months.

Everyone here that posts is letting them know they have an audience regardless of the information we are given (or not given); make them work for their audience IMO, they give us some info, they get feedback - we are after all going to be paying for this.

My two cents.

BigPickle 08-17-2008 07:55 PM

Very true dude

SlipBall 08-17-2008 07:59 PM

Boy, you guy's are something else...act like men. When it's done its done, stop crying about it

Tree_UK 08-17-2008 08:12 PM

Yes c'mon guys, Men dont need news or updates. Updates are for girls and queers. Lets be men and stay huddled together in the dark.

96th_Nightshifter 08-17-2008 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 47436)
Boy, you guy's are something else...act like men. When it's done its done, stop crying about it

I'm not crying, I never whine about this sort of thing and in fact have no doubt whatsoever that this game will be released and that it will be awesome.

I agree with "when it's done it's done" whole heartedly, that is my point. There is no point in sitting around in a dead forum arguing about this, what I am saying is wait until we actually get some more information and then give the forum the populating it deserves.

Right now all we do is argue about what little scraps of info we have about a game that has no forum of it's own.

The next time I post it will be after Oleg and or Luthier's post count increases and I will happily enjoy the actual information they pass on instead of this mindless pi$$ing contest about who believes and who doesn't.


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