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Fjordmonkey 06-27-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ali Fish (Post 438220)
but believe me and i think i speak for most people here 1C, you better get your cards in order with what you deem acceptable next time we have financial dealings with you. and interuption to the patch via this new title you and you only that deem acceptable. IS NOT ACCEPTABLE ! i wont be manipulated and i dont think anyone else will be now.

You do not speak for me. Not now, not ever. Some of us are far more patient than others, and I'd daresay that the silent majority of the boards far outweigh the screamers. Yes, we all want the game to be fixed to a high standard, but some of us are willing to wait for that to happen. And if it doesn't, well, them's the breaks, really. At that point I've spent some money on a product that turned out to be less than stellar, and that's OK. I got enjoyment out of it even if it wasn't perfect.

And in the end, that's all it comes down to: Each of our own sense of enjoyment.

slick118 06-27-2012 10:37 AM

What's the point in showcasing models for an upcoming sequel when the mechanics that this sequel will presumably use remain far, far from perfect? I am sorry, I don't post here much and read around a bit more than that, but I am beyond confused with 1C company logic. I find the whole "update" process quite insulting to be honest.

Skoshi Tiger 06-27-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by slick118 (Post 438452)
What's the point in showcasing models for an upcoming sequel when the mechanics that this sequel will presumably use remain far, far from perfect? I am sorry, I don't post here much and read around a bit more than that, but I am beyond confused with 1C company logic. I find the whole "update" process quite insulting to be honest.

Even though you (and the rest of the human race) are the current iteration of the 3 Billion years of selective breeding that has been forced on to you a harsh and malevolent God, it is quite obvious that you are still far from perfect, And you expect a computer game costing $17.00 to be perfect? Go figure! ;)

Icebear 06-27-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 438466)
Even though you (and the rest of the human race) are the current iteration of the 3 Billion years of selective breeding that has been forced on to you a harsh and malevolent God, it is quite obvious that you are still far from perfect, And you expect a computer game costing $17.00 to be perfect? Go figure! ;)

LOL ! What a bullsh*t comparison. Impudence and the ability of making abusive comments seems to be the result of "tried and failed selective breeding". Hmmm...seems that the best of me dropped on the cave floor some billion years ago. ;)

NervousEnergy 06-27-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by slick118 (Post 438452)
What's the point in showcasing models for an upcoming sequel when the mechanics that this sequel will presumably use remain far, far from perfect? I am sorry, I don't post here much and read around a bit more than that, but I am beyond confused with 1C company logic. I find the whole "update" process quite insulting to be honest.

Why not? The 3D modelers have nothing to do with coding the game engine, and I'm happy to see them still employed creating new aircraft models (the best evidence available the dev team is still committed to the sim and moving forward.) Why shouldn't they post the fruit of their labor? It's aircraft models... we wouldn't be here if we weren't passionately interested in WWII aircraft.

I'd rather see that then pictures of game engine coders staring at lines of code on a monitor. That's somewhat more relevant to moving the current state of the game forward, but visually it's as interesting as watching paint dry. More aircraft!

Allons! 06-27-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NervousEnergy (Post 438494)
Why not? The 3D modelers have nothing to do with coding the game engine, and I'm happy to see them still employed creating new aircraft models (the best evidence available the dev team is still committed to the sim and moving forward.)

Given that these modellers have already worked on the numerous errors posted in the bugtracker site instead of painting impressing La- whatevers. Greetz Allons!

=AN=Apache 06-27-2012 02:45 PM

Someone knows how many copies were sold of the CLOD? thanks

Allons! 06-27-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by =AN=Apache (Post 438504)
Someone knows how many copies were sold of the CLOD? thanks

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/53111/i...iffs-of-dover/

That is: 18.xxx copies worldwide with mostly 9k in 2011 and 9k in 2012

=AN=Apache 06-27-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Allons! (Post 438519)
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/53111/i...iffs-of-dover/

That is: 18.xxx copies worldwide with mostly 9k in 2011 and 9k in 2012

Thanks for the info ...

18k copies actually a mega failure, ahead of big game developers considering 100k copies a failure ...

I've been analyzing that there is this patch is released or are just buying time?

To this amount of sales actually his interest in pleasing the audience is very small. If it exists!

Now I understand why they try so hard to divert attention to the BOM with screeshots and reports on the development of the sequel.

Where are we going to stop?

Warhound 06-27-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Allons! (Post 438519)
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/53111/i...iffs-of-dover/

That is: 18.xxx copies worldwide with mostly 9k in 2011 and 9k in 2012

Seems to be retail only though. So all the digital copies aren't counted, nor do I see the yuplay/1C sales (Russia) listed.
But even with those added, the numbers won't be high and are unlikely to cover the cost of developing it.


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