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johnnypfft 07-17-2010 12:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzIPYnQ6zNE

Superluminal_8 07-17-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hecke (Post 170345)
BTW On the Crane photo. Are these little zeppelines or what?

Barrage ballons

Lucas_From_Hell 07-17-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 170344)
Lucas,

No hurry here (not after 5 years, come on!), and no wish of a buggy software. I'm just afraid that perfectionism will kill the chicken in the egg. If fires will stay cartoonish, I will not deem SoW as an unfinished software.
Again, small details can be adjusted later. I mean small details, not bugs, of course, such as flames colors, sea hue, or tree nuances.

And RoF is a successful experience, IMHO.

Cheers,
Insuber

I see your point, Insuber.

However, we both know this community very well, and I guess you are aware that some members will troll and complain for the very unimportant details, so for the sake of the dev's mental health, I think that should be avoided :mrgreen:

Plus, most of these small imperfections are easy to correct during the final stages, it's not something that can postpone the release for another month. Those details are something people will see quite often while flying, so sooner or later it will catch a nitpicker's eye, and I can't see why not dealing with it if there's enough time :) Even if it gets postponed for two more weeks, I think that's a reasonable wait for getting a polished simulator.

About Rise of Flight, it has become a successful experience after constant patching and debugging, but in the very beginning, most people were everything but happy about it as a whole.

TallBonapart 07-17-2010 01:12 PM

If be honest,I don't care much about ground textures,trees,water,seagulls,DRM and all that secondary and unimportant stuff.Just give me nice and realistically looking cockpit,good physics,and I will give you my 40 or 50 Euros straight away.So no need to wait 1C,after all its just a business,not the competition for most sophisticated product of the decade.

Tbag 07-17-2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 170333)
I have to say that im not feeling much love for the landscape that Ive seen so far, to me it looks like a water colour painting, i would like to see a comparison screenshot between WOP and SOW landscape i seem to remember Oleg mentioning that he may do this. Also I honestly think that the Il2 trees look better although i appreciate that it is all still WIP's. The detail on the aircraft is incredible though and the water looks stunning.

I think we've seen much better landscape shots than those in recent updates already:

http://fooblog.mexxoft.com/wp-conten...0/grab0003.jpg

http://fooblog.mexxoft.com/wp-conten...0/grab_010.jpg

http://fooblog.mexxoft.com/wp-conten...0/grab_011.jpg

Foo'bar 07-17-2010 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hecke (Post 170345)
BTW On the Crane photo. Are these little zeppelines or what?

http://fooblog.mexxoft.com/storm-of-...hots-mai-2009/

Barrage balloons.

Hecke 07-17-2010 02:51 PM

Quote: I think we've seen much better landscape shots than those in recent updates already:


yeah a bit better.

But especially the trees (shape and) colour look much nicer than in the latest updates.

Chivas 07-17-2010 04:01 PM

I agree with Lucas_From_Hell that a product shouldn't be released early, but that doesn't always work.

ROF for example would not have been released at all if they waited until is was finished. They needed the cash flow to continue work on the sim. Sure this upset a few people, but it did save the product, that many are enjoying now. Instead of having nothing in the end, you now have a developer with the cash flow to continue to improve a great product.

SOW is in the same boat although I'm sure it will be in a more finished product when released than ROF was. The SOW developer has stated many times he must release the sim as soon as possible for financial reasons. He has also stated in the Russian forums he would have liked to delay the release until 2011 to add some features but it won't be possible.

IF sales are good for the BOB SOW series, you will see a constant improvement of features as the sim progresses thru many addons. Hopefully the community will have the foresight to see that their favorite aircraft, theater, improved features will eventually be available in the SOW series, but they will need to support the developer now not later.

erco 07-17-2010 05:00 PM

Incredible update- can't wait to see it in motion. And as others have said, Luthier really ought to be in marketing, he knows how to push a simmer's buttons!

I took part in the beta test for ROF, and, while I can't argue with the developer's decision to release an unfinished game rather than shelve the whole project, my experience with the beta put me off buying the game, which I had fully intended to do. I'm still interested in ROF, I gave the demo a whirl a few months back, but I'm still not impressed with the game. Sure, the graphics are great, lots of people are enjoying it, but it still doesn't feel polished enough (seriously, no SLI support?) for me to bother with.

Oleg & Co are 100% right to only release what is working 100%. If that means some features are cut (initially) from the release, so be it.

furbs 07-17-2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tbag (Post 170357)


yep...those trees look much better...so i wonder why they dont look as good in the last few updates?

anyone have a idea?


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