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The M00ps 11-22-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite (Post 121359)
They're too complex and too easy to patch later.

Agreed. But almost 3 months to fix some very basic flaws that should have never made it past QA? C'mon, even EA is more responsive than that. Regardless of who's fault it is, it has effectively killed the online community for this game. What could've really been a gem is going to become a bargain bin queen.

Sadly, I watched Battlestations: Pacific go down the same way. At least Eidos had an excuse, as they went under not long after release.

Lexandro 11-22-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The M00ps (Post 121398)
Agreed. But almost 3 months to fix some very basic flaws that should have never made it past QA? C'mon, even EA is more responsive than that.

What? Like the BF2 patch that was in beta for a year? Or the 2142 patch that was in beta for a year? Or Mercs 2 that is still totally bugged on PC? Or Hellgate London that shutdown 1 year after release?

Sorry but EA are one of the WORST offenders for late patching, non existant support, and helluva bugged games. And before someone pulls out something like BioShock, that didnt get a patch for 4 months after release and even then it was only a "lite" patch doing bugger all to help. Or how about HAWX that didnt get its absolutely required patch (due to huge game flaws) for 8 months?

In short, unless its an MMO or a huge blockbuster title then patches are always going to be later than people want them. In BoP's case 4 months is average for a game title to get a full patch, thats actually adding features and not fixing critical showstoping bugs.

Ancient Seraph 11-22-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexandro (Post 121403)
What? Like the BF2 patch that was in beta for a year? Or the 2142 patch that was in beta for a year? Or Mercs 2 that is still totally bugged on PC? Or Hellgate London that shutdown 1 year after release?

Sorry but EA are one of the WORST offenders for late patching, non existant support, and helluva bugged games. And before someone pulls out something like BioShock, that didnt get a patch for 4 months after release and even then it was only a "lite" patch doing bugger all to help. Or how about HAWX that didnt get its absolutely required patch (due to huge game flaws) for 8 months?

In short, unless its an MMO or a huge blockbuster title then patches are always going to be later than people want them. In BoP's case 4 months is average for a game title to get a full patch, thats actually adding features and not fixing critical showstoping bugs.

+1
And again, I think it's useless to keep on talking on how publishers suck etc. We have no idea how the whole system works, who answers to who, etc.

InfiniteStates 11-23-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Riceball (Post 121299)
Is that really your response to complaints about the American planes? Fly another one? Give me a break.

Yes it is. The P51 is one plane of forty. That is 2.5%. And even though it's not the only broken plane (FW I'm looking at you) it's still the minority by a long way. Fly another one - there are plenty that aren't broken.

I'm sorry if you are a die-hard P51 fan and that is all you care about. But this is not P51: Birds of Prey. Just because a few planes are broken does not make the entire BoP package a complete failure.

But I guess to me the glass is way more than half full. If you want to focus on it being a little bit empty that is your loss, not mine.


And to dazz1971: you're putting words into my mouth. How is a handful of broken planes equivalent to chocolates with all but four rotten? Unless there are only 5 in the box. I'm not wasting my lunch arguing against something where you've either not read my post properly, or you've read it as well as you've written the response. My lunch break is too short to bother. I hope you can find a game out there that does meet your standards.

IiI GUNNY IiI 11-23-2009 12:50 PM

JEZZ what a jurk
 
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Originally Posted by InfiniteStates (Post 121655)
Yes it is. The P51 is one plane of forty. That is 2.5%. And even though it's not the only broken plane (FW I'm looking at you) it's still the minority by a long way. Fly another one - there are plenty that aren't broken.

I'm sorry if you are a die-hard P51 fan and that is all you care about. But this is not P51: Birds of Prey. Just because a few planes are broken does not make the entire BoP package a complete failure.

But I guess to me the glass is way more than half full. If you want to focus on it being a little bit empty that is your loss, not mine.


And to dazz1971: you're putting words into my mouth. How is a handful of broken planes equivalent to chocolates with all but four rotten? Unless there are only 5 in the box. I'm not wasting my lunch arguing against something where you've either not read my post properly, or you've read it as well as you've written the response. My lunch break is too short to bother. I hope you can find a game out there that does meet your standards.

Dude I love your left handed personal attacks. Pompous, Arrogant,And Ignorant .Well lets just say ,Yes I bet you know something about all of that stuff.And I don't know who you are ,or what that" SR Member" means beside your name "must be a way of saying just hear to defend this piece of crap that you wasted your money on to the dieing end"Do they pay you for this service or do you go down for free!!!!.OK jerk now I would tell you really what I think of you,this game,and everyone concerned,But This piece of Chit has not been in my console in a week, and MY friend list is mostly made of people that I made friends with on the first week of this game"see I cleared my friends list of most of the people on my list to make room for this game. THAT`s HOW MUCH IT MEANT TO ME TO GET A GAME LIKE THIS"so.Thats why I`m so pissed This was to be MY GAME but last night from my friends list there was TWO "FREAKING 2 "people playing They where playing each other and told me that they had seen no one else on.So any way I would stay to tell you what I think of you but .after all this I just don't care .If they patch this game to spew money out of the front of my Xbox ,I still will not be back out of protest .I will never Buy ANY game with the 505 or C1,Logo on it.LAST POST>>BUY...

IiI GUNNY IiI 11-23-2009 01:02 PM

ok One more.
 
Ok I stopped smoking last week.So, was my last post maybe a little over the top?Just asking.God I need a smoke!!!!!!!

Ancient Seraph 11-23-2009 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by IiI GUNNY IiI (Post 121686)
Ok I stopped smoking last week.So, was my last post maybe a little over the top?Just asking.God I need a smoke!!!!!!!

The whole personal attack stuff was a bit unnecessary.. the rest made some sense.
Hope you can find some other game that can be 'your game'. Bye :).

InfiniteStates 11-23-2009 01:25 PM

IiI GUNNY IiI: I believe you are the one who launches personal attacks, and still continue to do so. But feel free - it reflects more on you than me.

I won't deny there are some broken things about BoP, and that some things couldn't be better. But to say the game is completely broken, unplayable, a coaster or whatever else it has been accused of by some people who seem to pin all their hopes on the patch is just plain wrong. In my opinion, the game is good as it stands, and the patch will only make it better.

It's not the game's fault you cleared all your friends and whatever else you did. It wasn't a requirement to play the game. And even if this game had a perfect lobby system, I've no doubt that the community would have been significantly reduced by the release of MW2, which is, after all, only the biggest game ever. And I suppose that is the developer/publisher's fault too?

But thanks for your constructive contributions. See ya.


BTW, the "Senior Member" is related to post count. I don't know how obvious that is to others.

Deascendent 11-24-2009 03:08 AM

Bottom line is that the so called "community", doesn't exist anymore and people that bought and enjoyed the multiplayer are upset with such a massive tease, just a few changes and it could have been a cult classic hit like consoles have never seen before... who knows if even a perfect patch could bring people back.

Lexandro 11-24-2009 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Deascendent (Post 121960)
Bottom line is that the so called "community", doesn't exist anymore and people that bought and enjoyed the multiplayer are upset with such a massive tease, just a few changes and it could have been a cult classic hit like consoles have never seen before... who knows if even a perfect patch could bring people back.

So says you, who has barely even bothered to join in with the "community" you said doesn't exist. Its patently obvious that your wrong, as the community does exist, as this here forum clearly shows.

I bought it and still enjoy multiplayer, and I am not bothered when the patch comes out. A patch wont make the game any better as a title, it will simply add a couple of features and clear up some things that the MP game could do with.

Frankly I'm getting sick and tired of all the whinging by so called "members", its almost as if none of you have even bought a game before.


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