Originally Posted by Red Dragon-DK (Post 486802)

@CWMV

The move was something we had planed and prepaired for, for over 2 years. That was not something that came as a shock to anybody. All had a fair chance to upgrade.

I think it must have been a long time since you last flew in CLOD.

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 486939)

RoF is a great game. I'm playing it online every day.

Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 486819)

nonsense !!

the game was never free in the first few years, you got a couple of planes with the initial game and from then on you had to buy more items in order to stay competitive online and get newer better planes

after a few years of doing this and sales lagging, RoF decided to give you the initial 2 plane "game" for free but with limited options of how to play it. this was done very deliberately to sukker in a whole new swarm of players that would otherwise not have bought the game, and to be able to sell to a large percentage of them more planes and other items over the following months

free, no, not by far

Originally Posted by addman (Post 486943)

I would too, if it was a WWII sim. I actually bought the iron cross edition on a sale but have only tried it a few times unfortunately.

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 486949)

I'm just responding to people who say it's broken. It's definitely NOT broken. It's a fantastic game if you want to fly WW1 aircraft. If you want to complain about RoF flight models you can also do that, but it's very competitive.

Originally Posted by addman (Post 486928)

I see a lot of people are already judging a game that hasn't even been released yet maybe it's better to wait for the final product before initiating whining mode. Seriously you guys....:rolleyes:

Oh BTW, I wrote the following for another thread but I'll just paste it in here for convenience.

I get the impression that there are still people living in an illusionary PC games landscape where a 40€ high-production cost/low sales niche game is financially viable. Have you tried PlanetSide 2? If not, download it -for free- from Steam, play it and try to comprehend that 1c is doing this to make money. The games industry is not some kind of charity ball where people sit and work their butts of for free.

Imagine if 777 only made RoF, kept supporting and updating it for years for free without any pay-per-plane/item system. Do you really think that they would be selling thousands upon thousands of copies of the game every month for several years sustained? No they wouldn't, no game does that, especially not flightsims which are the niche of the niche these days, except a select few super popular titles like Call of Duty etc. It's so easy to understand it, yet some of you can't grasp it. Without a steady cash-flow, how in the world would they be able to continue? No matter how good a game is, it will only sell a certain amount copies, period! You may hate it or love it, that doesn't matter, this IS the only way to keep a small gaming genre alive. Nobody's doing it to be evil, they do it for the necessity of profit, the cornerstone of capitalism. I guess at least the Americans on here should be able to grasp this.

I would like it to be as before where would get an expansion pack (which is basically just a bunch of DLC content packed into one really) every second year or so but I get why they are taking this route. So try to be a little supportive to the "new" developers in their future endeavours, many of you stood tall defending MG in every single "whining" thread before, how come you are so anti when we actually get someone who steps in and try to salvage the awesome IL-2 series that we have all played and loved for years? You should be grateful that someone took it upon themselves to develop the one thing we all love.

Originally Posted by addman (Post 486955)

Also, I know next to nil about WWI kites.

Originally Posted by Ploughman (Post 486592)

Er. You telling me CLoD and it's engine died today? That the franchise is over, that Luthier and Maddox Games and Oleg and all that is over and the name's been sold or given over to 777 and their engine to exploit?

Put a shine on it if you like, but this is a kick in the nuts.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 486963)

Part of that.. or so it seems.. but if you read this :



It seems to me as if this is a partnership using the best of both teams. I look forward to it.