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-   -   Friday Update, January 27, 2012 (http://forum.fulqrumpublishing.com/showthread.php?t=29368)

JG52Krupi 01-27-2012 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 385115)
am I? You obviously never worked for a serious company.
Hahahaha if only you knew....LAMO you would have to hide in shame!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 385115)
The time estimate I'm giving there is not how much it takes them, but how much it should. If they can't keep up with such numbers, then it's either a case of hiring more people or sacking who you have to substitute them with someone more efficient. This sim thing might be a hobby to you, but to them it's a job.

Sometimes I really do wonder on what planet some of you guys live...
Yeah I wonder where you live as well.. you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...7&d=1327653715

There is a few weeks/months (happy now sterny) work gone into that model and they still have a lot to do to get it in the game.

Anyway last post on this thread.. hopefully the mods will erase the last few pages.

Dano 01-27-2012 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 385022)
Well, I admit this is a better communication "package" compared to the last one I gave you my feedback upon (the infamous "balalaika" youtube video...).

Still, you are becoming masters in disguise... (I avoid using the term masters of deception out of politness).
I had to read the text twice to understand. Worthy of SunZu's teachings, brilliantly worded, it earns my respect!
Cudos to your effort!

Now that I have given you credit for the worthwhile effort, please allow me to tell you some things which I appreciated less:
Pretty pictures - little content.
You left us with a memory leak that grows to 4Gb RAM before crashing, obliging us to restart the game after every flight, for weeks now.
Careful reading of your statements makes me deduct that you have not being able to trace the cause of the memory leak much less provide a fix for it.
More concerning, no comment any more about the complete graphics model overhaul (which was the cause for not creating an intermediary patch).
Last but not least, no comments on the current flight model bugs in terms of performance of existing airplanes (e.g. SpitII) and funtionality of airplanes (e.g. JU-88 not working gyros).
Not posting a single date/ timeframe for completion of tasks (any task!) makes me speechless.

No need to worry gentlemen, I will buy your next sequel, and the one after that.

What frustrates me is that I am 46years old, have four university degrees (= my brain is working) but sometimes I feel I am reading communication destined to 12 year olds... :(

~S~
Maybe you need to read it a third time...

csThor 01-27-2012 01:20 PM
Sternjaeger you grossly underestimate the amount of research neccessary to create a model as shown in the screenshots (with all the interior parts, wing ribs etc). For that stuff you need solid data and not just any cr@p a google search finds you. That stuff requires something better than a few thrown-together TGA schemes ... On top of that you need original manuals to study and understand the various systems of the type, manuals which often are either unavailable at all, only partially available or not available in the language you need them (remember the development team speaks native russian, not german or english). I remember Dietger and Jippo spent one and a half years only on collecting the necessary manuals to begin modelling the Ju 88 back in 1946. And, let's be honest, the 1946 Ju 88 is a much less sophisticated model than the CloD one.

Sternjaeger II 01-27-2012 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 385126)
Hahahaha if only you knew....LAMO you would have to hide in shame!
Yeah, if only I knew :rolleyes:

Quote:
Yeah I wonder where you live as well.. you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

There is a few weeks work gone into that model and they still have a lot to do to get it in the game.
I think you answered yourself. A few weeks work into the model and look how far they got. I wonder if you know what you talk about..

Tvrdi 01-27-2012 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by csThor (Post 385128)
Sternjaeger you grossly underestimate the amount of research neccessary to create a model as shown in the screenshots (with all the interior parts, wing ribs etc). For that stuff you need solid data and not just any cr@p a google search finds you. That stuff requires something better than a few thrown-together TGA schemes ... On top of that you need original manuals to study and understand the various systems of the type, manuals which often are either unavailable at all, only partially available or not available in the language you need them (remember the development team speaks native russian, not german or english). I remember Dietger and Jippo spent one and a half years only on collecting the necessary manuals to begin modelling the Ju 88 back in 1946. And, let's be honest, the 1946 Ju 88 is a much less sophisticated model than the CloD one.
and how many years 1C had for CLOD? :-) Oh we have all the main planes from the BOB but we dont have a working (without major slowdowns when effects are near) game engine...oh nooo!!!!!

Im not whining...Im angry....with right...thats all...get over it...

see you in a year..or maybe sooner...who knows...Luthier will promise something im sure...sometimes...so you can all get wet (for some reason)
goodbye

Abbeville-Boy 01-27-2012 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 385125)
I obviously don't have a problem, I don't endulge in obsessive complaining and have only 1 account here.


Wrong! your problem is too many posts, non stop all the time
1300 post count not even one year with the franchise
you always see the need to chime in, going pm would be better for all of us
no school, no work = to much free time

J.Reb 01-27-2012 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 385125)
I obviously don't have a problem, I don't endulge in obsessive complaining and have only 1 account here.
I will not trade insults with you.



TO A MOD

I am tired of the veiled insults of Bewolf and bongodriver, I see them as unnecessary and unfounded. I would like to request

1. That you investigate me, any aliases, any posts of mine, and anything else you consider relevant to full disclosure of my standing as a good member. I shall assist in any way I can.

2. That assuming I get a clean bill of health, you will warn Bewolf and bongodriver that if they continue with the harrassment they are banned without further discussion.

csThor 01-27-2012 01:30 PM
Harping on about it won't change anything, either, Tvrdi. I just replied to Sternjaeger and his - IMO - grossly optimistic development timeframe estimation. I didn't say anything about previous development or what MG does.

J.Reb 01-27-2012 01:33 PM
To Uther
 
Hi Uther,

Sorry to trouble you with this, but I am tired of the veiled insults of Bewolf and bongodriver, I see them as unnecessary and unfounded. I would like to request

1. That you investigate me, any aliases, any posts of mine, and anything else you consider relevant to full disclosure of my standing as a good member. I shall assist in any way I can.

2. That assuming I get a clean bill of health, you will warn Bewolf and bongodriver that if they continue with the harrassment they are banned without further discussion.

Thanks,
J.Reb

Abbeville-Boy 01-27-2012 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 384928)
It’s our pleasure to continue our weekly updates in 2012!

From now on our Friday updates will include both information on Cliffs of Dover (when we have something exciting to reveal) as well as updates on the state of our not-yet-announced sequel.
ok we must wait


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