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Ploughman 01-25-2012 01:23 PM

Game objects, be they other aircraft, hedges, fields, clouds, trees, ships, trains, buildings, infrastructure, all conspire to create the illusion of the virtual world the developer is trying to create so he can call it a product and sell it. I'm all for more planes and cockpits, but I also want a believable, even convincing environment in which to fly those planes in. Of course there has to be a balance, and at the moment I think we're all in agreement that content has to take the back seat while the game is, er, optimised.

Even so, the Channel without a variety of shipping or England without hedges is like Holland without dykes, or Austria without the Alps, or France with soap, and it is not convincing, and it's a bit of a shame that it looks like that is how it's going to stay unless somebody else does it, but there we are.

speculum jockey 01-25-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 384193)
I think we should let the devs to concentrate on aircraft (at least cockpits) and SDK because no one can make aircraft better than them. If we have SDK those who need ships will model ships, those who need cars will model drivable cars, etc.

Many players who fly fighters do not care what type of ship is below. As to me there are already enough ships in the game taking into account that the more ships the devs make the less aircraft they can make. I would prefer to have 1 more flyable cockpit than 3 more ships because no one can make cockpits as good as the devs. Any ground unit can be modelled by enthusiasts who need them imho.

This is a flightsim and the devs have to concentrate on something because the resources are very very very limited (economic crisis).

Your profile says that you're from the USSR, so I'm going to assume that you're from Russia given that and your limited English Reading Comprehension. I'll try and explain it very simply.

I want the Developers to create more aircraft and cockpits.
I think they could do that if they didn't have to worry about the static objects and other models.
I know there are talented people out there that can fill this role.
It wouldn't take any real time or money to implement after the tools are released.

Ataros 01-26-2012 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 384107)
Edit: Added emphasis for people who don't know how to read and comprehend English above a grade 3 level.

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 384389)
Your profile says that you're from the USSR, so I'm going to assume that you're from Russia given that and your limited English Reading Comprehension.

I was not arguing with you. Hope you are able to figure it out now ;)

Ploughman 01-26-2012 08:42 PM

Atoros, this isn't a flight sim, it's a flight combat sim. As such the behaviour of targets is or interest. Targets can be defined as every enemy object in the sim. Now, imagine. Operation Pedestal. For an Axis flier it's a dream. Carriers, cruisers, destroyers, fast merchantmen, oh my. Now, when you bend your Stuka over the OHIO don't you want it to go up as convincingly as a the Wellingtons and Blenheims do already in game? You nail that ship, Malta's last hope, and it goes without a bang but a whimper? I think not, you want to be able to see its fires burning from Sicily.

Ataros 01-27-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ploughman (Post 384811)
Atoros, this isn't a flight sim, it's a flight combat sim. As such the behaviour of targets is or interest. Targets can be defined as every enemy object in the sim. Now, imagine. Operation Pedestal. For an Axis flier it's a dream. Carriers, cruisers, destroyers, fast merchantmen, oh my. Now, when you bend your Stuka over the OHIO don't you want it to go up as convincingly as a the Wellingtons and Blenheims do already in game? You nail that ship, Malta's last hope, and it goes without a bang but a whimper? I think not, you want to be able to see its fires burning from Sicily.

I agree that this could be great to have all this in game. My point is that resources are not unlimited to do everything on the same level which is extremely high for CloD. Maybe this is the reason they would not go for the Mediterranean theatre. As luthier mentions in his today's update different knowledge/people are needed to model a tank, a cockpit or a ship. Server statistics shows that majority of CloD users are fighters not bombers. That is why the devs have to concentrate on aircraft but not on ground targets to stay in business I guess.

World of Planes for instance will have all these ships and carriers but they can not go into so much detail in aircraft models as CloD. Also limited resources but different priorities = different game for a different target audience.


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