And in a game of horse shoes that might mean something! ;)

While we are on the subject.. it is amazing to me all the folks whining about this.. Turn it down to medium.. if it crashes turn it down to low.. And before they come here and whine about it.. they should take pause and note the title of the patch has the word 'BETA' in it.. At which point it would be a good idea to put out the fire on the torches and call off the march to Luithers house!

All in all if you don't like 'beta testing' than don't dl the 'beta patch'! I really is that simple!

Stop being such a smug person ace.

Low settings in game mean 'off'.

There are three settings for effects. Low, Medium and High.

The game freezes on both medium and high settings.

It's only on Low settings that freezes are prevented.

On low, there are no explosions, smoke or gun flashes.

Minimium and Low are the same thing here.

Do you actually have the game with this patch installed?

I think not.

The graphic part basically like, but have a problem with it. This is not a bug, but a bad decision: the metal parts of the aircraft does not seems metal. Not glossy, like a piece of paper. In such a sunny day is should be much stronger edge-lights and reflections. It is very visible difference when you compare with a photograph.

smug? So let me see if I understand you correctly.. It is my fault that you equated the word minimul with low instead of the ingame setting called medium?

Most would agree with that but not all.. As Lo pointed out, it is close to off but not off.

Think again!

And while your thinking.. look up the word 'beta' and get back to me.. Long story short this problem can be soved by the high strung types not partispating in beta testings.. Which means they should avoid dl beta patchs.. It really is that simple.

You obviously don't realise how daft that post makes you look.

Maybe to the high strung types it does

Now you really explain it that the "minimum" value is actually higher than the "low"? :shock: But... the minimum means... ehh, nevermind, don't answer :-|

Well you look up the dictionary definitions of 'minimum' and 'medium' and then get get back to me.

1st. Oil and water rads not controllable in the E4 and E4b !!
2nd. The game crash if you got efect to MEDIUM or more, you can play only to LOW

I just play 2 hours, if i found something more i will tell you!!

Turn off the automation, then will be ok.