There is a certain forum member known for making poor videos that was reporting all my posts. Probably the same guy who does it here, still it keeps him happy. :grin::grin:

I'd noticed that. I'd imagined the fellow to have a bright red telephone with a clear plastic dome over it. Every time you posted, it would ring and light up.

In all fairness the two of them are a match made in heaven...like twins from two parallel but opposite universes :-P

Actually no, you need to finish your point which is to discredit Tom's observations and comments he made in his article because he is a gamer. Sorry your argument is flawed. It doesn't take a developer to point out the problems with CoD.

If anything you're biased as a developer.

I get it now... Anyone that writes anything negative about CoD has no credibility. I get it now. Hooofaa... Makes zero sense.

Who says you can't be critical of a game? Completely flawed thinking.


It's pretty dang simple when you break it down. The game is far from being complete period.

I think you should have a nice day though.

Ok I get ya, accurate blather. Glad you cleared that up.

+1

Personally I think that it's about time someone with a bit of weight echoed what seems to be the general concensus, ie. CoD is buggy.

The original SimHQ 'review' was actually pretty gentle, it cut the developers a bit of slack, referenced the RoF release which had problems and left off with an optimistic 'hopefully this bugs will be ironed out soon' feel. They could easily have absolutley slated it, and nobody could have really complained.

But,that was months ago. I'm glad that SimHQ decided to have a go at 1c/Ubi. I think the article has made some valid points, it seems that there's a genuine anger behind it. I don't agree with all of it, but at least it's not just some dude on a forum moaning, it's SimHQ moaning, it carries a bit more weight.

The problem with the 'whiners' is they were getting very little feedback from the devs so they just kept on repeating the same gripes. The problem then is that the whiners opinion becomes devalued because everyone just thinks they are moaning for the sake of it. So they get ignored.
I'm not making excuses for some of the real whiners, but there are a lot of people here who don't whine but would like to know what's going on.


Hopefully this whole debate will reach someone at UBI/1C/Maddox.
All that is needed is some good PR, even if it is just a weekly update of a couple of lines to let people know where they are up to.

I'm sure that if we got a "we're working on xyz this week, we've tested abc and that's ready to go, we're looking at releasing something in the next 2 weeks" message once a week then people would relax a little.

I would be with you on this point Blackdog but I think the reason people are still taking time out of there lives to "beat the dead horse" :) (funny caption by the way) is because to a great many of us (about 50% according to the last pole on the subject ) still do not find the game in a condition that makes it enjoyable over other options.

Even though it has been improved to a point where you can play it, all of the stuffing so to speak really is not that interesting to play for a big chunk of the fans yet. At least not for more than a few minutes at a time. This is the category that i fall into at the moment :)

Now the writer of the article may have had ulterior motives but after reading it word for word I think if he really had intent to destroy the game no matter how improved it is, it could have been done much more viciously. In my opinion the article sounded very accurate and even reminds the reader that this company has a long standing history of constant and free improvements of their products LONG after their release. For me as I read it I got more of a frustration, and disappointment feeling, not a malicious I hate this game no matter how good it gets, feeling. :)

I am am an electrician by trade so even though I still choose to play IL246 over CLOD for what i find to be its better aspects I.E. Offline campaigns, sounds, Stability, e.t.c. If I were a video game reviewer and had an interest in flight sims, because I do not find the game in a state that keeps me busy playing it instead of thinking up reasons why it didn't have the success of its predecessor then I might find myself writing a similar article :)

Again I do not know this person and have no idea of his motives but their are two sides to every coin and it its possible that the reason that anyone including this reviewer are still beating this so called dead horse as some of you put it :) is because the game still really is not fun enough to keep them quiet:) I have a feeling that when it does reach this level for most of its target audience there will be an abrupt and lasting silence with very few exceptions:) until then the repetitive and often very accurate reviewing done by professionals and amateurs alike will likely continue. In the end I guess its all subjective.

one last thing on the constant repeating of peoples opinions good or bad. They are really both very necessary, weather you want to hear them or not. Any time you have a product out on the market and your intent is continue to grow and sell more of them, every day you want as large a group as possible to be telling you what they like and don't like about your product. I feel that this also goes for your business practices, customer service e.t.c. The more repetitive the feed back in either direction the more it drives a company to improve on its existing product or to move on to the next step in its evolution. So some see the beating of a dead horse, others see a constant and continuous improvement opportunity. :)

Cheers

lol well I am 32 and I would still buy IL246 over CLOD but only because there is much more to the game that makes it fun to play for hours and not just for a few moments. This may shift over time as CLOD gets Modded up but currently I would say your statement is a little premature. :) The new graphics are great to look at but after about a half hour I find my self wanting more options, better sounds, and a more stable game play experience. This brings me back to IL246 where I can jump on to any of huge number of campaigns and different aircraft and get a very fun and entertaining experience for hours and hours until I finally look at the clock and then yell "YIKES" i have to get up for work in 4 hours i better get to bed. :)

CLOD is still very lacking in this department and I would think that this would draw a new player that was new to flight sims over to the IL2 46 camp for now.

It should also be mentioned that new players, (especially in the 10-20 year old category) :P do not usually have a computer with the power that CLOD really requires to run to the nines. This is also a big deterrent and the the gaming experience using both games on an entry level or mid level machine would also lead to a much more enjoyable IL2 46 experience over all.

Cheers