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Catseye 12-10-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 203781)
Apparently a merlin 45,I don't see any flames:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv0Onh6NzPA

And another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIpgk-1OfFU

Blue flame is practically invisible in daylight.
I've seen pics of formula 1 racing where after a crash, the driver is trying to get away from flames engulphing him - the video does not pick up the blue flames.

I've also seen exhausts burning blue but at the last part of the flame they start to flicker yellow.

Interesting topic. In my mind I'm beginning to rationalize briefly yellow turning to blue as the system heats up but that is purely a guess by me and I'm sure Oleg will have the definitive answer after seeing all the info being brought forward.

Motokiume 12-10-2010 09:42 PM

Yet another video - watch for the colours at approx 30 seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2gef...eature=related

jameson 12-10-2010 09:47 PM

Best vid I could find of MH434 a mkIX spitfire with type 66 Merlin engine. From 5.35 to 6.25:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDZmq2VrcNQ

Any kind of visible flame on startup is very unusual unless this is due to overpriming of the engine. A spitfire in good condition will start with less than one turn of the prop. They can throw out quite a bit of smoke though for a couple of seconds. See here, a mk1a:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv4SG...eature=related

MD_Titus 12-10-2010 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing (Post 203631)
I would go more with Blue...

yep
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 203633)
In all of the accounts I've read, the pilots refer to Blue flames from the exhausts at night.

The flames matching the firing order is very impressive!:grin:

indeed.

thanks for the update oleg

Baron 12-10-2010 10:09 PM

Maby this should indecate to people that Oleg and team are ontop of things:

"We have original table of the exhaust colors by which British crew were need to define is in good or not so good conditions the engine before the flight..."


Meaning maby Oleg and team have more than one colour to play arround with depending on situation.


So maby we could go back to the orginal question:

"My question to community: isn't it too yellow? Maybe to add a bit red color in a mix with yellow? It is tunable really, so I would like to listen suggestions"




Amazing how difficoult focusing on the issue at hand can be for some.

moilami 12-10-2010 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wutz (Post 203626)
Well this is not a british engine but maybe this gives you an idea how it should look like?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZzvKCQwWj0

Wow, got a signature!

baronWastelan 12-10-2010 10:19 PM

Engine Flame & Smoke effects demonstration
 
Sorry Oleg, had a spare hour this afternoon and a new add-on for an old sim, and just couldn't resist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tzHTH2Jzhg&hd=1

pikokk 12-10-2010 10:21 PM

sorry for my bad very very bad english

in all benzine engine the exaust flames is blue, benzene vapor create those color, but see yellow/orange flames is caused to "return of flame" (in italiano si dice ritorno di fiamma in inglese non ne ho idea!) this "return of flame" is determined from a not complete combustion of the mixture in the cylinder

major_setback 12-10-2010 10:33 PM

I must say it is nice to see that the hangars are weathered and old looking.

A question about the presentation video 2 weeks ago - will we see English train stations? The one shown with British vehicles passing nearby is Foo'bar's German station (and can be seen on his site).

PeterPanPan 12-10-2010 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David603 (Post 203687)
Yes, the tape tears when the guns are fired.

Yes, I know it does in the real world. I was just wondering if this will be modelled in SoW. :)


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