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MikkOwl 03-06-2010 07:35 AM

It would be no different than what IL-2 was like since its release. HakenEnable to the rescue. And leaving a spot empty where the swastika belongs is necessary or else the swastikas would not be an extra texture, but rather they would need to hide it with an extra texture (not as pretty).

robtek 03-06-2010 10:31 AM

well, it's not in MY nature, afaik :-D
A website takes away resources from the important things!
We are addicted anyway, as you can see by the emotions here.
And to spoil the surprises we get when we can finaly buy BoB:SoW, what for?

krz9000 03-06-2010 11:29 AM

i wonder is olegs team is doing displacement like these guys. these precudural techniques rock :) http://www.outerra.com/wgallery.html

Qpassa 03-06-2010 11:53 AM

In my opinion the swastikas should be included :)

Feuerfalke 03-06-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Dutchman (Post 148172)
Actually he was saying what i was thinking for some time now...........it's not constructive,true,but nevertheless..............i mean,in a flightsim,how close do you ever come to ground objects,unless you have no other choice?:grin:

These physics are probably translated to the aircraft too,so why not show us some never seen before aircraft features?
After all it's a FLIGHTSIM,right?

The waiting is hard,but if i'm correct didn't they promise there should be a website up by now?
Or why not even a blog?
At least a place where all info/screens are gathered,people start complaining,it's in our nature.............;)

Honestly, I don't know what you guys expect to see.
A plane? You already saw several planes, even in flight, internals, skins, modeling of internals and systems, cockpit-views, you even saw a StuKa dive-bombing, pilot-models, pilots bailing out, exhaust-flames, .....
Damage model? You already saw dozens of screenshots of how damage looks and works.
So what would you want to see? Real ingame videos of dogfights? It's not gonna happen now, for various reasons and it was stated several times in the meanwhile.

I can understand that waiting is not really pleasant - I'd love to start flying tomorrow, but it won't happen, so what? Complaining won't change it and it won't make waiting any easier.

To the complains themselves: To the complains in general:
If you can't take it then don't dish it out.
Nobody here will deny your right on your own opinion, but if you criticize something or somebody in an official forum, why are you so surprised when you get criticized as well?


So far, I'm glad there is no website. Leaves more resources for the project.
Until then, there are a couple of nice websites gathering information and pictures.
Foobar's

Feuerfalke 03-06-2010 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qpassa (Post 148199)
In my opinion the swastikas should be included :)

No it shouldn't.

a) because of the legal problems in several countries
b) because you can make your own skins with swatiskas, if you want them.
c) because there will be a mod enabling swatiskas and then Oleg won't be the one to blaim.

nearmiss 03-06-2010 12:20 PM

Oleg is sharing with our community. That does not call for complaints, whines and bitter comments. He doesn't have to share anything with us.

Oleg does appreciate constructive thoughts and critique, that is why he hangs around and answers questions. No one wants to be blasted for being a nice guy and sharing.

All of us, who frequented the Oleg's Ready Room at UbiSoft knows that when Oleg gets enough... he is gone.

KG26_Alpha 03-06-2010 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 148208)
Oleg is sharing with our community. That does not call for complaints, whines and bitter comments. He doesn't have to share anything with us.

Oleg does appreciate constructive thoughts and critique, that is why he hangs around and answers questions. No one wants to be blasted for being a nice guy and sharing.

All of us, who frequented the Oleg's Ready Room at UbiSoft knows that when Oleg gets enough... he is gone.

BINGO

:grin:

Qpassa 03-06-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke (Post 148206)
No it shouldn't.

a) because of the legal problems in several countries
b) because you can make your own skins with swatiskas, if you want them.
c) because there will be a mod enabling swatiskas and then Oleg won't be the one to blaim.

Well I just want the most real game, I know that it is forbid in Germany, but not in my country. Could be make an option in the install...
I hope some modder do it

Lucas_From_Hell 03-06-2010 01:22 PM

IMHO, it's simple.

Planes with swastikas are historically correct. Erasing them and pretending they never existed, as done in Germany and a few other countries, won't change a thing - it's history, it happened, deal with it. Having a plane without swastikas when it actually had is as wrong as having a pink Spitfire as default. "If you don't like it, just make a skin yourself."

It's useless to fight the law ("...and the law won"), we probably won't change it. I for myself think it's just complete bullshit to try to erase it, but so what? The folks making the laws think otherwise, and I'm not too sure, but they probably don't care about my opinion.

Having it as optional is fine. Oleg can't go in trouble because he gave an option to have them, anyway. Pretend Maddox Games is a weapon maker, Storm of War is the gun. Guns can kill, and killing is sort of illegal in most places. Can they go in trouble if the costumer bought his product and commited a crime with it?

I'm not aware of how the laws apply in Germany, Hungary, Austria and co., so it might actually be considered illegal, but it makes no sense whatsoever.

Something that could work would be having some sort of official patch for enabling swastikas. So those interested in having them could just download the files, install/copy them into Storm of War's root folder, and done. Those who don't want it, just don't download it.

(Is the text actually understandable? I can rewrite it if necessary, it might be a bit confusing)


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