It looks like the ban on talking about mods has been lifted... a little. Let’s be careful! In my opinion “modder” is not a bad word in itself. The difference is between legitimate and non-legitimate mods. Regardless of the quality of a mod, it is legitimate only when the intellectual property owner declares his consensus. In my opinion...:rolleyes:

It makes sense to me. The ability to organize a group big enough to tackle the job was no small feat in itself. But I think that a second factor could have played a role, and was the willingness to adhere to Oleg’s standards and preferences.
So, it looks that there is hope for anything... including an official 6DOF.:)

And what about an official FW190 "bar fix" ? Because IMO this was the BEST thing mods brought to the sim :) .

No, it's not. Because a stamp of approval is not given just for nothing. As in any other industry, it's given for quality and following certain technical standards.

In a simple words, what would you choose (for the same price): a car modified by, say, Brabus, or the same car modified by some greasy guy from a garage next door?

Certainly, there is a small probability, that this greasy guy can do things as good as an "official" industry, but in this case, he usually would turn into something like Brabus very soon.

So, something like this happened to the DT. Unfortunately, there is no one in the modder community, who could reach their level so far.

It's being considered for the next patches.

Pretty simple... Oleg and 1C Are a Game Development Company and a Publisher. They make money selling SKUs at a store and they sell entertainment software.

The point you're missing is that they focused on adding new things to the sim such as new airplanes new objects etc etc. But what they failed to do was address some nagging issues that still plague 4.08 today. I mentioned only a few above. At some point a developer has to move on. Providing "free" updates isn't going to effect the bottom line. It's a simple and obvious business decision.

Where I find fault in it is that they had plenty of time to add something like 6DOF they said it couldn't be done to the quality standards they wanted because the cockpits wouldn't support it. Fact is it can be doneand it was done with no negative effects. How do you take that as a customer. Guess it depends on your priorities but that's a different discussion.

The simple fact is that many things could have been addressed but they were too busy adding more stuff which in turn continued to add more problems. They ignored the community even when the help was offered for FREE by Natural Point.


I can't comment on your first questions because like you I would only be guessing at this point. In terms of harsh words it is what it is...

What product do you speak of? The modders is just a mob of people making changes and additions to the game.

Funny enough testing is happening and it's been coordinated by the AAA folks.

And now your agenda is clear... It seems everyone has an axe to grind

Talk about axe to grind.......you've obviously come here to do nothing more than that.

Your obvious frustration and lack of respect for 1C and thier team had made me wonder why you even come to these forums. But after a few posts by you I started to catch on.

My humble opinion is that you are dissed modder who is unhappy that 1C isnt a slave to your personal vision and/or you feel slighted that you didnt make it on the Daedalous ( sp?) Team.

It seems the 1C forums isnt a place for you. It'd be in everyones interest if you just ran along. Thats now my obvious agenda, and I'm certainly proud of it.

My apologies to the moderators here for my frank talk. Thanks

- Eries

Absolute rubbish

Oleg actually said they didn't have the time/resources/money to redo all the cockpits in IL2 for 6dof to their standards and keep his cockpits integrity in place, as TIR isn't strapped to every single persons head who buys the game and isn't a cast in stone requirement it makes sense not to re build every single pit in the game for a minority TIR users who admit themselves its not essential.

As an SoW requirement then yes its essential, only as as a marketing point as its something else that helps sell the game.