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Fall_Pink? 12-09-2011 08:50 PM

Please also have them look at the change formation commands. Line astern is executed within a second while forming back to finger four takes a very long time. Doesn't seem right to me.

Regards,
FP

smink1701 12-09-2011 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid (Post 368667)
I'll try to explain to you what is going on here. No matter what they do there is going to be complaining. If they tell you what they're fixing people will complain that they're fixing the wrong thing. God help them if they say they're going to fix something and it isn't fixed. If they don't update you then there is complaining. They get the least amount of complaining if they pretend to update you, but really just say "we're still working on it", so that's what they did. You're welcome.

Here's what they should have said...

There is nothing new to report. What we thought in October was near completion is still weeks, if not months away because all the talented programmers left the company long ago. And the few people that are left don't really know what they are doing and are desperately trying to learn as they go. Thanks again for buying CloD and we hope you will buy Storm of Moscow too.

Salute!
:grin:

6BL Bird-Dog 12-09-2011 08:57 PM

Many thanks for the Up-Date Black Six and welcome.
Please relay thanks to the Ilya and the team for the information and especialy that the graphics are being completely redone which I belive is the one of the most important issues .
;)

IamNotDavid 12-09-2011 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smink1701 (Post 368686)
Here's what they should have said...

There is nothing new to report. What we thought in October was near completion is still weeks, if not months away because all the talented programmers left the company long ago. And the few people that are left don't really know what they are doing and are desperately trying to learn as they go. Thanks again for buying CloD and we hope you will buy Storm of Moscow too.

Salute!
:grin:

The goal is less whining, not more.

philip.ed 12-09-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 368637)
That depeonds on your definition of 'support'

If your definition of support is 'reasonable' and means you will get all the new features that BS mentioned, than the answer is yes. Assming 1C does what they have allways done (read track record) and include all the planes, maps, etc from thier previous version into their next version (read sqeual)

If your definition of support is 'unreasonable' and means you expect every plane, boat, train, car, wagon, ice cream stand that was aval in the real world during the summer of BoB.. Than the answer is most likly no


Disagree 100%


Disagree 100%

Well.. retract that.. maybe true for you, but surly not for all


What?


See above

I'm talking OVERALL simulation here. CloD is technically amazing in many departments; but it doesn't feel like the BoB. Maybe it's a British thing, but there is nothing in the off-line department to immerse you in the day-to-day routine that was the BoB. BoB2 does this perfectly, and even when you remove the dynamic campaign that BoB2 has, the AI and the missions all equate to an experience which is far more immersive. This is just one of the reasons why I hope that CloD is not just a small stepping stone in the team's road of expansion. It would be sad for them to neglect the areas of CloD which they have failed to cover/improve/develop (be it graphical or relative to gameplay).

smink1701 12-09-2011 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 368692)
I'm talking OVERALL simulation here. CloD is technically amazing in many departments; but it doesn't feel like the BoB. Maybe it's a British thing, but there is nothing in the off-line department to immerse you in the day-to-day routine that was the BoB. BoB2 does this perfectly, and even when you remove the dynamic campaign that BoB2 has, the AI and the missions all equate to an experience which is far more immersive. This is just one of the reasons why I hope that CloD is not just a small stepping stone in the team's road of expansion. It would be sad for them to neglect the areas of CloD which they have failed to cover/improve/develop (be it graphical or relative to gameplay).

1++ If there was a way to get IL2's functionality, BOB2's immersion and CLoD's graphics.

ACE-OF-ACES 12-09-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid (Post 368691)
The goal is less whining, not more.

+1

ACE-OF-ACES 12-09-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 368692)
I'm talking OVERALL simulation here.

I know.. and my responce to you on each of your statments took that into account

Skoshi Tiger 12-09-2011 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by smink
.....
Luthier should have a feel at this point on timing. For those that work in any business, you can always give a boss or customer an idea of when something is going to be delivered. Give us a tentative date so we are all on the same page in terms of expectations.

Em?

Quote:

: The process very difficult and slow, and takes much more time than expected.

Smink are you are out of touch with the community?

If Luthier post a release date for the patch/upgrade based on his "feel" it will be taken as a contractual obligation and he will be pillaried if the date is not met and be called a "Liar".

Skoshi Tiger 12-09-2011 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD_Titus (Post 368629)
if battle of moscow is a standalone game rather than an add on, where you can't play online and go from the channel to the steppes with a map switch, then i will eat a hand full of bhut jolokias and post pictures of my weeping.

Good Grief! I would not want to see that!

Based upon past addons and updates even if it is an merged game you will still have seperate maps!






[Edit] I changed my post as I miss-read the OP.


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