We all know that 'mature' isn't going to happen any time soon here, so in short moaners should carry on moaning and anti-moaners should use their right to free speech to let the moaners know how they feel and vice versa.......or even shorter change nothing.

yeah I know.....you just said that.......I'm a bit blonde today

Yes; exactly :cool:
It's just the vicious circle of development; people will all have differing views on the process for improvement (in the same way that political parties offer differing ideological perspectives).

Lets face it people moan, myself included when things are not fair.
So as the developers said yes its not fair, we are responsible give us time we will keep you updated with a community spokesman.
Peoples views can be as different as you like, as long as theirs a mitigator, at the moment we are mitigating each other with admins mitigating the mitgators.

Lack of meanful diaglog, 1C holds the key to stop this rubbish from going on, they know this or they wouldnt have promised a spokesman. But why make that empty promise, its only gonna fuel the flames, so its their fault the forum is left to wildy speculate and has become an unhappy place. Sorry but its the truth.
It could all gave been sorted by now if they had done what they said they were gonna do. Because then people have facts, and if they havent heard them they can be linked to them.

But hasn't it been hypothesised already that if the devs take time to communicate then that is time out of their day developing....and also the community manager idea has had a reasonable conclusion as to why it hasn't happened, pretty much for the same reason.

so given that the devs 'have' explained what they are working on...oh yes they have, then is it not reasonable to take the attitude that it will take as long as it takes? you know....like when the kid in the back seat is asking 'are we there yet?' no matter how often he asks the journey will take as long as......

this is why some cars have dvd players in them now, to shut that bloody kid up, so while you are waiting is there nothing that will distract you? not even a good old session on that supersmashing Rise of Flight game that is totally lorded around here all the time?

I'd just like to say that having a moan about the people who moan at the moaners is just another new wave of moaning.

only until someone moans about it enough.

theres only one good kind of moaning...but it takes more than just a keyboard..it requires flowers and dinner and wine and some times jewelry...but it does end in a smile :twisted::lol:

S!

Regarding communication, CoD is 1C's baby, not Ubisoft's. Rightly or wrongly this sort of thing always seems to end up being done by the people who care the most (and that sure isn't Ubisoft). 1C owns it and thus has the long term interest in this game. They have to do the work to build the community up. Otherwise the only comfort they will have for failure is that Ubisoft should have tried harder. Much better to just get it done regardless of who 'should' be doing it and succeed.

Anyway, do you honestly think Ubisoft knows what is going on? I doubt it. So they would have to ask 1C, receive the email and then post it! Ridiculous. 1C not communicating on their own forum is only going to end badly, especially after a North America release when we will (hopefully) have an influx or new players who all want to know what's going on!

:grin: those 2 comments absolutely slayed me. Like out of Red Dwarf or Blackadder or something. So there's people who moan about the thing, then there's people who moan about the people who moan about the thing... what does that make you 2?
no offence intended folks honestly that was just too funny. Keep 'em coming, Sorry for off topic.

Cheers,
Sam.

It makes us 2 guys who retain a sense of humour :)