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That's a nice project :)

There is some great stuff in here..

Can anyone from TD possibly fix the bug that makes you loose your FFB if you Win Key or Alt Tab out of the sim? I do not use FFB in the sim because of this. I prefer to just have the stick tension rather than the whole FFB effect (ie gunshake etc.. ) and if you turn off FFB in the sim you still get the stick tension FFB which IMO is better than any spring, you just don't get the other FFB effects like buffet etc..

As it is now if you turn on FFB in the sim you get the full FFB effect. Gunshake, stall shake etc .. and the normal stick tension that comes when you block the sensor.. but if for any reason your sim minimizes .. when you bring it back you completely loose your stick tension forces. The Gunshake and stall shake is still there but the stick tension is completely gone making it very difficult to fly. IIRC it wasn't always like this. As I said now if you turn off FFB in the sim you will not get the gunshake and stall shake (naturally since you turned off FFB) but you will get full stick tension and it will remain even if you minimize he window and bring it back up. You will also still get tactile input from the sim in that if say for instance you have a damaged wing.. you will feel the difference in responsiveness from one side to the other .. you just wont feel the other FFB effects (again naturally because you turned them off..) ..

So it seems the sim is talking to the stick with input whether you have FFB selected or not .. but for some reason, if FFB IS selected as soon as the sim minimizes and comes back you loose the FFB stick tension only. All the other FFB effects are still there. Also .. while the sim is minimized and you are at your desktop .. you will still have stick tension .. it is only when you bring the sim back up to the screen that you loose the stick tension. It still does this in 4.11 ..

Perhaps if you guys could look at the code you can find a solution to this.. I am sure there are dozens of FFB users who would be grateful. I know I would .. If this was fixed I could used FF Edit to turn down the gunshake forces to a minumum.. but leave all the flight forces in tact..

Peter_P, I Love your controller! If you have more info on how to drive 4 motors with one board, I hope you will post it in this thread. In the mean time I'm gonna think about buying an extra MS-FFB2 and start planning on building my own. Thanks!!

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Originally Posted by jameson (Post 233925)

Sully, I think most of us turn off the return to centre forces and set the sensitivity of the stick to all 100's. It will feel very different to a constant force spring stick but has great advantages for controlling the aircraft, you can fly right up to the point of stall with the wings buffeting and feel that through the stick, useful for 109's and spits. The game already has built in return to centre forces and the M$ one in the original stick software isn't required. When this is switched on you have two return to centre forces applied to the stick and it lessens the feel of control, (felt like mixing cement IIRC!). The first time I turned mine off it was a revelation to me and 'flying' started to match RL accounts and make sense. The controls will go light at certain times, but that's how it is and how you can understand what the plane is doing and hence the advantage of FF. I'd stick with it and relearn to fly with stick forces off. If COD's FM is as hard as Luthier has implied you'll need any edge you can get. Best of luck.

I still don't understand! How do you turn off return to center forces?

Just enable FF in the input section in IL2. Unless I understood him wrong, that is what he is referring to. Then on the ground the stick is more or less dead = no return to center. Only when you take off and gain some speed.

So in conf. ini FF needs to be 0 and in game Forcefeedback light should be on or off?

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Originally Posted by Snake (Post 389772)

So in conf. ini FF needs to be 0 and in game Forcefeedback light should be on or off?

1 = light on in the game. Thats what I have. There is one downside to this, and that is losing FF every time you alt-tab out of the game.

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Originally Posted by T}{OR (Post 389775)

1 = light on in the game. Thats what I have. There is one downside to this, and that is losing FF every time you alt-tab out of the game.

...and, as result you'll have to respwan to make it work again.