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Lucas_From_Hell 02-23-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Driver (Post 145846)
Doesn't sound very constructive to me, and mixing it with constructive criticism elsewhere will not sound very constructive to anyone else.

Oh, very nice. Get the only part of the only post I stated I was irritated by countless factors, and only get the "pissed-off" part of it.

Distortion of facts isn't a really nice thing to do, really.

So, the rest of the post:

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Skies of Valour and Skies of Fire are for newcomers, or veterans that want to have some fun once in a while.

Do yourself a favour and start praticing on Spit_vs_109 and other servers with all realism settings turned on.

If you stay stuck on the "Skies_of_Something" bubble, you will improve little. First of all, you will have almost no navigation skills, as you have a plane icon on the map that will show you the way when you're lost. Secon of all, no situational awareness, as you can padlock on your enemies and have externals to check your six when you want to. Other thing: you will have poor identification abilities: what's the point of identifying a Bf-109 that's way too far, when you have an icon telling you that it's a foe or friendly.
Agressive? Yes, I admit it. But in that case it wasn't anything personal, but things non-related.

So as I said, stop defending him blindly just because he's your "friend" or something like that. It's not normal to be known in many forums for your rather childish behaviour or have videos about you on YouTube, that's for sure. Just because it happened to you it doesn't mean you need to fully back everyone that suffers from the same.

All in all, this sort of thread could and should be avoided...

The_Stealth_Owl 02-23-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell (Post 145894)

All in all, this sort of thread could and should be avoided...

If it could be avoided, why don't you test it out. :)




So all you guys have come up with whilst I was at school, is to find some way to downgrade me, and say you didn't in your next post, when one of my allies says something, and you try to get to them. Its stupid. Mods please lock this thread.


Thank you Andrew and Driver for ignoring these fools who are instigating. And I will work on your skin some more, Oktoberfest, and update it to you in PM's :) , but it is quite hard to make stuff smaller and still get detail, thanks to the bad mapping of the Bf.110. :rolleyes:

philip.ed 02-23-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Stealth_Owl (Post 145898)
If it could be avoided, why don't you test it out. :)




So all you guys have come up with whilst I was at school, is to find some way to downgrade me, and say you didn't in your next post, when one of my allies says something, and you try to get to them. Its stupid. Mods please lock this thread.


Thank you Andrew and Driver for ignoring these fools who are instigating. And I will work on your skin some more, Oktoberfest, and update it to you in PM's :) , but it is quite hard to make stuff smaller and still get detail, thanks to the bad mapping of the Bf.110. :rolleyes:

Understandable, maybe, but if I am downgrading you it would not be the case if you took my comments on board. One of the reasons I joined your forum was to give you advise, but clearly you don't want it. There aren't enough posts on your forum for me to wish to reply, but that was why fly)zo joined your forum, to help you in whatever way he could. Basically Owl you have potential and that is what we have tried to tell you. This could have been a 3 page topic if you didn't reply by posting your skins and saying: this is what I can do, and then following up by saying, but my other work is better. That was not the sole purpose of this thread, we were just trying to tell you that posting you wants openly on the forum is not the best way to move about the community ;) If you had asked then to lock this so you could PM TD, this could all have been avoided.

Is this understandable Owl? Or have I written a load of gobbeldy-goop?

BK_JG27_Treiber 02-23-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 145902)
Understandable, maybe, but if I am downgrading you it would not be the case if you took my comments on board. One of the reasons I joined your forum was to give you advise, but clearly you don't want it. There aren't enough posts on your forum for me to wish to reply, but that was why fly)zo joined your forum, to help you in whatever way he could. Basically Owl you have potential and that is what we have tried to tell you. This could have been a 3 page topic if you didn't reply by posting your skins and saying: this is what I can do, and then following up by saying, but my other work is better. That was not the sole purpose of this thread, we were just trying to tell you that posting you wants openly on the forum is not the best way to move about the community ;) If you had asked then to lock this so you could PM TD, this could all have been avoided.

Is this understandable Owl? Or have I written a load of gobbeldy-goop?

You've done nothing but write gobbledegoop. He didn't post his wants exactly, the context was more like an announcement. And as for his posting pics of skins, weren't you the one who said he couldn't do anything he said he could?

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One of the reasons I joined your forum was to give you advise, but clearly you don't want it. There aren't enough posts on your forum for me to wish to reply, but that was why fly)zo joined your forum, to help you in whatever way he could.
Actually, you figured there was enough to make 7 posts. And none of them involve advice (I can't speak for any PMs you've sent).

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Posted by Lucas
Oh, very nice. Get the only part of the only post I stated I was irritated by countless factors, and only get the "pissed-off" part of it.

Distortion of facts isn't a really nice thing to do, really.

So, the rest of the post:
Distortion of facts? I stated:
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Doesn't sound very constructive to me, and mixing it with constructive criticism elsewhere will not sound very constructive to anyone else. Oktoberfest's post is a much better example of constructive criticism.
The fact remains, mixing constructive and destructive criticism like you did is hardly constructive and could bring ugly accusations.

Oktoberfest 02-24-2010 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Stealth_Owl (Post 145898)
. And I will work on your skin some more, Oktoberfest, and update it to you in PM's :) , but it is quite hard to make stuff smaller and still get detail, thanks to the bad mapping of the Bf.110. :rolleyes:

I know it's a hard bird to skin. That's the problem with the nose art especially. On this bird the girl does look like a buch of pixels at the end. Try to make her as big as possible on the nose of the aircraft, and at the end if she still does look like a bunch of pixel then it's meant to be that way :)

What I want to see is a bit of inspiration all wrapped in good standards :)

S.

Lucas_From_Hell 02-24-2010 08:58 AM

Look, "destructive" isn't exactly the word, Driver.

It might sound "agressive", yes.

I'm a bit tired of arguing with Owl and his lawyer/buddy/BF/whatever, so I'll stop trying to use rational arguments when there's no one listening. Honestly, Owl's posts at least instigate me to reply, yours don't even get there.

I could start the ultimate flame war (and loose some friends :mrgreen:) with a word:

"Yanks..."

...but as I know most aren't like that, I'll just leave the kids happy with your little "victory" or whatever :rolleyes:

philip.ed 02-24-2010 03:39 PM

Driver, yes I made 7 posts but I said there weren't (or for that matter are) enough Topics for me to wish to reply to; generally because there are rarely any discussions on Owl's forum: and please, take note of the rarely that I have used. Consequently, no advise has been needed. I thought there'd be a lot more going on there but clearly not (and no offence is meant by that). I mean, let's be resonable, when Owl said he could get everyones IP's it was a risky move of me to even join his forum.

And no, I have not written gobbeldy-goop, I have written good English, made sure my replies were well structured, and always justified my opinions. Owl's post should not have been there in thie first place; this is an open forum with the purpose for posts made by users to be discussed. If Owl's post was an announcement, number one he should have said so in the title, and number two he should have avoided posting openly and sent a PM to TD.
I'm not sure what your problem with me is. No doubt now you'll find something wrong with what I just wrote and try and knit-pick my post. I am only posting now in order to justify myself. Ask most members who have posted here, and most of them have agreed with the opinions I wrote. If I were writing in gobbeldy goop, then clearly everyone else is and we need to switch languages ;)

Thanks ;)

nearmiss 02-24-2010 04:03 PM

Closing this thread it's turned into a personal back and forth kinda thing that is accomplishing...ZIP.


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