Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 142184)

One thing that bothers me about the BOB SOW.

I still run the BOB II WOV every now and then.

It haunts heck outta my thinking.

The .303 guns on the British aircraft

The 109E isn't that bad at least it has a cannon.

I've got enormous respect for the RAF pilots.

The lack of firepower shakes my joints to think how tough it was to get a kill.

After all the firepower of IL2 I don't know what to expect.

Maybe my expectations are ill conceived.

I sure hope so.

The way it looks --> flying the Hurricane and Spit with pea shooters against cannons

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 142250)

That's incorrect In fact the shields are missing from the upper walk way either side of the crest equidistant from the towers.

The metal work on the bridge was reddish brown, and the lamps dark green. as were most thing in those days it was a common colour scheme :)

http://www.thetowerbridge.info/video...paint-analysis


Here's the restoration history of the bridge >> http://www.thetowerbridge.info/


At 1.45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmcrfY8xRMA

Also see the vid posted earlier in this thread and you see a 40's Tower bridge the same colour as the 1cTeams at approx 3 mins in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LGav...layer_embedded

The "coat of arms" can be seen on both these films .

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 142164)

I think you'll find that it is evolved from actual combat clothing. From the late 18th Century through World War 1 they were used throughout British Empire. There were minor changes to colars, cuffs, lapels and pockets but the basic design was used right up to modern times, though as you say it has become more cerimonial now. The basic pattern was used by many different nations, just altered to suit the style/culture of the nation in question.

The Jackets are tailored around the chest/torso so you don't catch or snag on anything and the waist flares to give your lower body freedom. When used in conjunction with the webbing it was designed to ensure lower body freedom.

(From an Aussie POV) Just like you told us, if you saw a digger landing on the beach of Gallipoli and a modern day staff officer in dress uniform, you would recognise it as the same uniform.

I think during WWII uniforms became more practical in that they were generally chosen (or modified) to suit the conditions that the soldiers were operating in or the task that they were performing. WWII changed warfare a lot, and traditions usually came out second best)



Now this is a general question (I don't know the answer). Before someone told us that the country name was only used by the dominion forces when they went over seas. What did the RAF servicemen wear on their shoulders when they went to Russia?

Cheers

Originally Posted by luthier (Post 142362)

Thanks guys for all the corrections, we'll get on right away!

One more question. What's up with these caltrop things on the bridge? Pre-war photos show them on, and a lot of wartime photos have them missing. It looks like they were still there during the Battle, is that correct?

Should we have them on or off?

Originally Posted by Zorin (Post 142309)

The first film is dated prior to 1920 judging by the cars and film technique. The second does show the coat of arms, but as the pictures I provided showed that they were not present from 1939-1946 it shouldn't be there in BoB. Additionally, it doesn't look like the 1C one. It is as dark as can be seen in the photographs.