Heads up-extra planes on website list...

[juz1]

Me262,162,163 ju87d,he111H16,macchi202,bf110,109k4,190f8 something

all axis...brings onsite descriptions to 30...:cool:


if old news please delete :grin:Mods:grin:
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[trk29]

Me262,162,163 ju87d,he111H16,macchi202,bf110,109k4,190f8 something

all axis...brings onsite descriptions to 30...:cool:


if old news please delete :grin:Mods:grin:

This is new news!:-P

[juz1]

This is new news!:-P

easy to forget about the ole' site ,hey!;)
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[P-51]

Also wallpapers 3 and 4 are unlocked now! (hope this isn't old news!) They are in the media section>wallpapers for those that didn't know!

[towman]

I hope they will make a 262 cockpit in the future, I always remember how much fun was BnZing and wipe the sky clean with the 4X30mm cannons in the PC version.

[guiltyspark]

I hope they will make a 262 cockpit in the future, I always remember how much fun was BnZing and wipe the sky clean with the 4X30mm cannons in the PC version.

not really needed , i would rather have a stuka cockpit , or bomber cockpits

[reverend66]

Wow! a thread about the website turned into a thread about cockpits in just 5 posts! Super job guys:mrgreen:

[towman]

not really needed

Who decides what is really needed, looking forward to zoom by your Stuka with a 262 online :) , I'll wave if you are.

[PedroTheGoat]

wow! A thread about the website turned into a thread about cockpits in just 5 posts! Super job guys:mrgreen:

lmao!!!

[Empi666]

Sorry if this has been posted before.

Do the German planes have cockpits?

:)

[Soviet Ace]

Sorry if this has been posted before.

Do the German planes have cockpits?

:)

No... Simple answer, yes?? No need to bring it up again.

[Empi666]

No... Simple answer, yes?? No need to bring it up again.

It was a joke. Touchy subject I see.

[Soviet Ace]

It was a joke. Touchy subject I see.

It just turned into a flame war is all, nothing big :P And there is already a thread talking about it.

[David603]

So, to update the old list of planes I put up before,

Allied Fighters,
Hurricane II
I-16
LA-5FN
LA-7
P47D*
P51A
P51D
Spitfire II
Spitfire IX
Spitfire XVI
Yak 1
Yak 3

Axis Fighters,
Bf109E3
Bf109F4
Bf109G2
Bf109G10
Bf109K4
Bf110C4
Fw190A5
Fw190D9
Fw190F8
He162
MC.202
Me163
Me262
Ta152H*

Allied Bombers/Ground Attack,
A20G
B17G
Blenhiem IV
Il2
Il4
Il10
U2VS

Axis Bombers/Ground Attack,
He111H6
He111H16
Ju87B2
Ju87D3
AR234

Red=not seen before *=DLC only

So, 36 planes known now plus 2 DLC planes. Still don't see why they don't put up the other planes though.

[xNikex]

Me262,162,163 ju87d,he111H16,macchi202,bf110,109k4,190f8 something

all axis...brings onsite descriptions to 30...:cool:


if old news please delete :grin:Mods:grin:

Thanks for the update!:)

[juz1]

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Do the German planes have cockpits?

:)

of course they do...where's the pilot gonna sit!?


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[juz1]

Wow! a thread about the website turned into a thread about unicorns in just 5 posts! Super job guys:mrgreen:

fixed ;)

(if only)
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[reverend66]

So I guess no cockpits for the German Unicorns:mrgreen:

[Jazzy Jase]

I'm surprised the 109 K-4 is pictured with underwing cannons. I think it was very rare for these to be fitted to the K-4.

[David603]

I'm surprised the 109 K-4 is pictured with underwing cannons. I think it was very rare for these to be fitted to the K-4.
They are optional, so if you don't want the gunpods you don't have to use them. Like all the planes, the K4 will have several armament options.

[Jazzy Jase]

They are optional, so if you don't want the gunpods you don't have to use them. Like all the planes, the K4 will have several armament options.

I'm aware of that, it was just a surprise to see them on the aircraft on the website as I don't think I've ever seen a photo of real K-4 with underwing cannon fitted.

[redtiger02]

I'm aware of that, it was just a surprise to see them on the aircraft on the website as I don't think I've ever seen a photo of real K-4 with underwing cannon fitted.
There's quite a few out there, just google it. The cannons weren't very effective against bombers as was their original intention, so they started fitting them to Ju-87s and were used to great effect as tank killers on the Eastern Front. It would be interesting to see that part of the game. Now if we can just sort out the actual release date, all this discussion might come to something.

[Jazzy Jase]

There's quite a few out there, just google it. The cannons weren't very effective against bombers as was their original intention, so they started fitting them to Ju-87s and were used to great effect as tank killers on the Eastern Front.

Yes there's plenty of photos of 109's with underwing cannon attached, but they are mostly 109-G's. I cannot find any photo's 109 K-4's with underwing cannon.

[David603]

I'm aware of that, it was just a surprise to see them on the aircraft on the website as I don't think I've ever seen a photo of real K-4 with underwing cannon fitted.
Really? I thought it was common for K4s to be armed with the underwing 20mm gunpods.

Can't find a good source at the moment but there is a quote from wiki.

The 30mm cannon were extremely potent weapons, but they had a tendency to jam, and apparently all of the K-4s supplied to III./JG 26 were also equipped with 20mm-guns in the hated underwing tubs. Uffz. Georg Genth's regular aircraft was a G-10, but on occasion he flew a K-4. He preferred the G-10 as a dogfighter, as the K-4's bulky armament sharply reduced its manouevrability.

[FOZ_1983]

Its a nice list,

would love to see another hurricane on it though, but not going to happen i dont think :(

Must be more to come onto it though as im still not seeing the P51-D.

Unless...im looking at it wrong or you guys know somethnig i don't?


A great list non the less, some nice kites on it. :)

[haitch40]

Its a nice list,

would love to see another hurricane on it though, but not going to happen i dont think :(

Must be more to come onto it though as im still not seeing the P51-D.

Unless...im looking at it wrong or you guys know somethnig i don't?


A great list non the less, some nice kites on it. :)

p51A and D r on the list

[FOZ_1983]

The list on here yes, but not on the IL2 BOP site, when it has a drop down view and also a 3d rotation of the planes etc.....


sorry if im making this sound more complicated than it is.

Well on the site, im only seeing the "B" in british markings.

[Jazzy Jase]

Really? I thought it was common for K4s to be armed with the underwing 20mm gunpods.

Can't find a good source at the moment but there is a quote from wiki.

The 30mm cannon were extremely potent weapons, but they had a tendency to jam, and apparently all of the K-4s supplied to III./JG 26 were also equipped with 20mm-guns in the hated underwing tubs. Uffz. Georg Genth's regular aircraft was a G-10, but on occasion he flew a K-4. He preferred the G-10 as a dogfighter, as the K-4's bulky armament sharply reduced its manouevrability.

I take anything I read on Wikipedia with a pinch of salt. I've had a look through some of my books and still found no photographic evidence of underwing cannon equipped K-4's. Though I have found that the type officially existed as K4/R4 it does seem like it was a rare occurance.

[David603]

The list on here yes, but not on the IL2 BOP site, when it has a drop down view and also a 3d rotation of the planes etc.....


sorry if im making this sound more complicated than it is.

Well on the site, im only seeing the "B" in british markings.

The B listed on the main site is a mix up, both the picture on the site and the trailers show a P51A but it is called a P51B by the plane list. Either this is an error and they have a P51B as well as the P51A and just put up the wrong picture, or whoever put the planes on the site just didn't know the planes properly.

[David603]

I take anything I read on Wikipedia with a pinch of salt. I've had a look through some of my books and still found no photographic evidence of underwing cannon equipped K-4's. Though I have found that the type officially existed as K4/R4 it does seem like it was a rare occurance.
So do I but the problem is I have about 6 books on the Bf109 siting a home and nothing here at University. At least the quote from wiki is a secondary quote taken from a book, which makes it a bit more reliable, but I will try to find an online version of that book and see if it has more information.

[FOZ_1983]

The B listed on the main site is a mix up, both the picture on the site and the trailers show a P51A but it is called a P51B by the plane list. Either this is an error and they have a P51B as well as the P51A and just put up the wrong picture, or whoever put the planes on the site just didn't know the planes properly.



Yeah i noticed the error, so assumed it was a mistake and its the D that should be in their instead. But in one of the videos i see the same P51 in dersert markings (think its the new launch trailer). So..maybe we have 2 P51's in the game and the list needs updating some more in due time?


Its a good looknig list anyway, just glad to see the hurricane :grin:

[Jazzy Jase]

So do I but the problem is I have about 6 books on the Bf109 siting a home and nothing here at University. At least the quote from wiki is a secondary quote taken from a book, which makes it a bit more reliable, but I will try to find an online version of that book and see if it has more information.

Thanks, Let me know if you find anything. Especially photos! :)

[David603]

Yeah i noticed the error, so assumed it was a mistake and its the D that should be in their instead. But in one of the videos i see the same P51 in dersert markings (think its the new launch trailer). So..maybe we have 2 P51's in the game and the list needs updating some more in due time?


Its a good looknig list anyway, just glad to see the hurricane :grin:
The official list isn't complete, there should be 40 planes on there according to Anton. It seems to be updated in batches of 10 planes at a time. So the P51D isn' on there yet, but it will probably be added soon. And yes, there are at least 2 versions of the P51 that we have seen, so the P51A and P51D will both be available ingame.

[FOZ_1983]

Im not a huge fan of the P51A, only really like the D.


Looking to playing this one and seeing how they go, just get me airbourne in the hurricane and im happy.

[SlappyDingle]

Is there no Typhoon in this game?

Shame if not.

[FOZ_1983]

Cant say i've seen anything of the typhoon or tempest or heard anything either. Maybe in the future as DLC, would be nice to fly more hawker aircraft :grin:

[Soviet Ace]

Cant say i've seen anything of the typhoon or tempest or heard anything either. Maybe in the future as DLC, would be nice to fly more hawker aircraft :grin:

I always liked the Hurricane myself, but it can't beat a Yak-3 :P Both good planes though.

[Buggins]

Hope the P-51A has it's own cockpit..

[FOZ_1983]

Hope the P-51A has it's own cockpit..



Prob not. It will prob have the P47 cockpit, much like the P51D does in the demo.

[redtiger02]

Yes there's plenty of photos of 109's with underwing cannon attached, but they are mostly 109-G's. I cannot find any photo's 109 K-4's with underwing cannon.

Read: A Pictoral History of the Luftwaffe. I did my doctoral thesis at Baylor on why the Luftwaffe failed. It was a series of bad decisions, but that's beside the point. The pods were initially intended for the K-4, as I said earlier. However, they slowed the aircraft down and cause a roll instability to the left, as the K-4 was designed to be a high-speed interceptor and as such, sucked at low speed. They only put them on the Stuka as an afterthought, since it was the only low-speed attack plane in the inventory. Low-level, low-speed was contrary to everything the Luftwaffe was trying to do.

[PF_Lizard]

Cant say i've seen anything of the typhoon or tempest or heard anything either. Maybe in the future as DLC, would be nice to fly more hawker aircraft :grin:
I love the Typhoon and Tempest. I'd pay for either of them to be modeled and added (with cockpit! ;) )
Glad the Hurricane is in there tho. It had to be though, really. Can't have a Battle of Britain campaign without it!

[FOZ_1983]

i'll be flying the hurricane online to!! it may lack speed against the later models, but it has eight .303 machine guns so enough to do adequate damage, and its a sturdy gun platform, and can turn very very well!! people will see you flying the hurricane and see you as an easy kill........ more fool them!! you fly the little lady well enough and she'll see you through and look after you.

would be nice to use the typhoon though, with that huge radiator and them 4 hispano cannons..... deadly. Would be a superb aircraft of choice for the demo mission where you use the P51.

[Jazzy Jase]

Read: A Pictoral History of the Luftwaffe. I did my doctoral thesis at Baylor on why the Luftwaffe failed. It was a series of bad decisions, but that's beside the point. The pods were initially intended for the K-4, as I said earlier. However, they slowed the aircraft down and cause a roll instability to the left, as the K-4 was designed to be a high-speed interceptor and as such, sucked at low speed. They only put them on the Stuka as an afterthought, since it was the only low-speed attack plane in the inventory. Low-level, low-speed was contrary to everything the Luftwaffe was trying to do.

Cheers, I will see if I can find a copy of the book in my Library or Amazon.