Oleg we need the K-7!

[Viking]

Seriously the most impressive idea of airborne firepower I have seen so far. A must for Il-2!

Check it out at : http://englishrussia.com/?p=2231

Scroll down the page for more drawings.
The “English Russia” site will keep you amused for days, tons of info and pictures.

Regards

[nearmiss]

When I see things like that I'm reminded of how people lose touch with reality. That is so out there, and non-functional aircraft.

Don't get me wrong the Russians don't have a lock on dumb stuff.

The American carmakers have been losing sales for twenty plus years to one car.

Carmakers have stupidly watched the Honda Accord be the number one seller of cars the entire time.

The dummies never get the message, "Doesn't matter what people want...It's about what people buy".

The sad part is.. the people, "Russians and Americans", end up paying the bill

The goof offs with the power to get such ignorant projects funded never pay the price.

[Viking]

Comparing the K-7 to the American car industry? Hmmmm.
Not a bad idea, but please don’t derail this thread. Airplanes and airsim only please!


Regards

The Viking

[nearmiss]

Just an analogy to put dumb stuff in perspective. Just saying something is extraordinary stupid doesn't always get the message across.

It is clever implementation of Battleship Gun Turret however...

http://englishrussia.com/images/flying_fortress/5.jpg

Did you know Russia completely copied and built B-29? One was captured and they loved it so much that spent a fortune reconstructing and building the B-29.

Would have been smarter to have taken best features and improved on them. They made an exact replica. :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kv8vuO6N-E

Forrest Gump said it well, "Stupid is as stupid does". :-P

So, when I saw your posting I didn't see a marvel of engineering genius I saw the same kind of ingenuity gone bonkers Howard Huges gave America in the "Spruce Goose".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5EnbYL0F-k

We can't leave out the Greeks of course they had their flying anomalies as well..."The Pegasus"

http://www.psychosaurus.com/art/images/pegasus.jpg

[Viking]

Truly so!
This was the 30’s and the idea of future progress was unlimited.
One of my favourite movies “ Metropolis” by Fritz Lang 1927 depicts the ideas at that time.

The ideas of the Soviet era was very much like that in the sense that citizens were, happily, and to some degree ignorantly, lead by scientist who the believed could, like magicians, invalidate the laws of nature like in e.g. the K-7, the law of gravity.

The Soviet copy of the B-29 was just a way to take a shortcut in order to get a strategic air force, witch they had not had so far, ASAP to counter the US nuclear threat while they worked out their own design. No needs to improve just accept and go on to make a new model.


To make a brief comment on your post, the believe and hope the citizens of the Soviet era had in society and science mirrors the believe and hope the US citizen’s had in nation and industry. As we have seen both failed to deliver!

Regards

No anger or venom is expressed or intended.


The Viking

[nearmiss]

That's good I was not trying to manuever the thread to make some kind of "SIGNIFICANT STATEMENT".

One thing about forums, you can't tell what the other feller is thinking while he/she is reading your postings.

We all need to allow some slack, or better still... not make conclusions hastily.

I enjoy reading the postings of others, even when I don't agree with them.

These forums are good for us all. We get to know and respect each other from all over the world.

[LEXX]

Viking, ignore the Troll :grin: :grin:

Funny business aside, I wouldn't mind seeing the K-7 in the sim. Oleg K-7 -- not a chance, but its a great idea to go play with. The K-7 aroused huge public interest in Stalingrad before the Crash. Even more interesting is Kalinin's advanced designs in general.

The best historical gunship was Sikorsky's Ilya Morametz (sp?) biplane bomber, the "B-29" of 1915, with huge framed glass nose and a positive kill score against German fighters. Remember the Eastern Front WW1 sim that was being developed around a WW1 Sikorsky fighter, but the developer joined the current Maddox-esque WW1 sim team (don't know them, online only lala). Sikorsky super bomber would be a crowd pleaser in a WW1 sim.