View Full Version : Please 1C sell us "Realistic revision patch IL-2"
MOH_Hirth
02-21-2009, 03:48 AM
A realistic revision in velocity of planes and canons, acelerations, retentions, FM, etc...
This game deserve a gran finale.
This isnt so hard to you.
Chivas
02-21-2009, 04:48 AM
I agree, they should redo everything in IL-2 and call it...oh I don't know, maybe SOW the Storm of War.
tagTaken2
02-21-2009, 06:58 AM
Have you considered... mods?
A realistic revision in velocity of planes and canons, acelerations, retentions, FM, etc...
This game deserve a gran finale.
This isnt so hard to you.
Realistic according to who? :roll:
...or what Chivas said.
IceFire
02-21-2009, 03:41 PM
Yes...because I'm sure its as easy and just tossing in a couple of numbers and "fixing" all those things they couldn't somehow do before.
MOH_Hirth
02-21-2009, 03:58 PM
The game is very good, i love it, we never will hit the perfection, but we cant stop to try, 1C have the technical data, much more than 4 years ago, few days ago was here a interest discussion about gun velocity and anothers.
How many time we dont have nothing improvement in realism?
I am a customer and i want 1C works, why 1C dont stop 4 days and do a payed download?
For people who really like IL-2, a improvement is a happiness and give work for professional from 1C.
MOH_Hirth
02-21-2009, 04:11 PM
Have you considered... mods?
The MOD comunity respect and dont tounch in FM, guns... they are rigth, this things must be a stardart and ONLY 1C can do this, but the "standart" need fixes, why dont do this work? Do you think we will not buy SOW?
A realistic revision in velocity of planes and canons, acelerations, retentions, FM, etc...
This game deserve a gran finale.
This isnt so hard to you.
I don't think many of you realize how long IL2 has been out. It has had more support than most Non-MMO games and I think you are spoiled.
The more time they devote to IL2 the longer SoW will take to come out and I'm pretty sure they are not going to bother with that now with SoW getting closer.
I cringe everytime I see someone ask for some new features to IL2, the game is a masterpiece. But it's a dead masterpiece. As someone said above, SoW is where you will get new features.
KG26_Alpha
02-21-2009, 05:43 PM
The MOD comunity respect and dont tounch in FM, guns... they are rigth, this things must be a stardart and ONLY 1C can do this, but the "standart" need fixes, why dont do this work? Do you think we will not buy SOW?
Ermmm
Are you sure.........
There's more than one MOD website and more than 1 MOD pack available with modified guns and FM.
AAA is not the "be all and end all" of MODS
tagTaken2
02-21-2009, 06:08 PM
I don't think many of you realize how long IL2 has been out. It has had more support than most Non-MMO games and I think you are spoiled.
The more time they devote to IL2 the longer SoW will take to come out and I'm pretty sure they are not going to bother with that now with SoW getting closer.
I cringe everytime I see someone ask for some new features to IL2, the game is a masterpiece. But it's a dead masterpiece. As someone said above, SoW is where you will get new features.
+1
I don't find it too tedious waiting for SoW at the moment, just because there's stuff coming out in the meantime, as well. YAP2, Rise of Flight soon, Black Shark (actually not buying this because of Starforce, but I know a lot of people are loving it)
I'm sure it won't help, but I think there'd be an absolute minority who'd be behind Oleg and friends dropping SoW for a while to 'fix' Il-2.
Actually, I think I hear a lynching party being assembled right now :)
MOH_Hirth
02-22-2009, 02:46 PM
LOL!! We are waiting SOW so long time... only 15 day is the enougth to do this fix and more than 20000 fan want this fixes, camon 1C dont be so lazy!
IceFire
02-22-2009, 02:50 PM
LOL!! We are waiting SOW so long time... only 15 day is the enougth to do this fix and more than 20000 fan want this fixes, camon 1C dont be so lazy!
You've never worked on a big multi-person project before have you?
LOL!! We are waiting SOW so long time... only 15 day is the enougth to do this fix and more than 20000 fan want this fixes, camon 1C dont be so lazy!
15 days? lol wtf. Have you worked on a flight sim before and know how to program all that in exactly 15 days? Maybe you should send an app to 1C so you can show them how to program.
nearmiss
02-22-2009, 05:30 PM
The MOD comunity respect and dont tounch in FM, guns... they are rigth, this things must be a stardart and ONLY 1C can do this, but the "standart" need fixes, why dont do this work? Do you think we will not buy SOW?
The mods is your best chance for any Il2 changes from here out. Oleg may finally clean up the 4.09 release, but that would be the extent of it.
One mod dev has actually been modifying AI performance, which should be an indicator that mod devs are learning. They are doing more and more with IL2 code.
Then of course you must remember this. Without the guiding hand of Oleg the online game as we have enjoyed it will be shattered with mods.
I know this thread is a just chit-chat, but Oleg barely released the 4.9 incomplete. It should be clear not to expect anything more from IL2.
We'uns that have been around for the ride (Il2 1.0 thru IL2 1946) enjoyed some fun times when Oleg was putting out anxiously awaited addons and patches. Those were great days....you could always look forward to something better. Oleg never disappointed us.
nette Landung or nice landing
MOH_Hirth
02-22-2009, 09:23 PM
15 days? lol wtf. Have you worked on a flight sim before and know how to program all that in exactly 15 days? Maybe you should send an app to 1C so you can show them how to program.
I am not asking to change all, only corrections in well know details, after this, please let me pay in pure happines US$50,00 for download, is this soo hard? a lot of people need job, so contract one to do, all happy!
Insuber
03-01-2009, 02:29 PM
I'm afraid that any evolution of Il-2 at this stage is seen by 1C as a marketing threat to SOW:BOB. II-2 should stay as it is, a previous generation sim, not to eat up market shares with a "too good" last patch.
IMHO.
Ins
Insuber
03-01-2009, 02:36 PM
Ermmm
Are you sure.........
There's more than one MOD website and more than 1 MOD pack available with modified guns and FM.
AAA is not the "be all and end all" of MODS
Curious to know the other mod websites, could you be more explicit please ?
Regards,
Ins
II/JG54_Emil
03-01-2009, 05:57 PM
OO/JG54 Emil
Currently, referrals to IL2 mods or mods site is not permitted on this forums.
Nearmiss
Insuber
03-01-2009, 07:21 PM
Thank you Emil !
Ins
II/JG54_Emil
03-01-2009, 07:56 PM
Thank you Emil !
Ins
You can download it from our Website aslwell!
Check the download-section.
SturmKreator
03-01-2009, 09:48 PM
Amazing work Emil :)
Should these links to mods even be posted here?????
II/JG54_Emil
03-02-2009, 10:59 AM
Should these links to mods even be posted here?????
Ups is thta the case?
If so I´ll delete my post!
SturmKreator
03-02-2009, 11:42 AM
Hi Emil I have a question for you, mi english suck, but you try to understand me, This mod is for better realism? new real data and velocitys more realistics?, i answer that becouse i test de Ta 152 H1 at 9000 meters, and the historic velocity is 700km/h, this didnt happen with this mod, I need activated other option maybe?, sorry but if you dont understand y try to write again, Salute
fly_zo
03-02-2009, 12:04 PM
Hi Emil I have a question for you, mi english suck, but you try to understand me, This mod is for better realism? new real data and velocitys more realistics?, i answer that becouse i test de Ta 152 H1 at 9000 meters, and the historic velocity is 700km/h, this didnt happen with this mod, I need activated other option maybe?, sorry but if you dont understand y try to write again, Salute
...ultrpack contains 98% AAA mods , not one mod has been madden by ultrapack's author ... he just compiled them ( poorly) . So do yourself a favor and come to AAA if need mods ( google it for the link) and you'll be sure that nothing " funky" hasn't get included in your installation. ( ultrapack had included weapons mod for stock planes without telling users, up to its 1.4version... so guys has cheated online with stronger guns unaware of anything ) .
Seriously come and get mods at the source ....
reg
Z
...
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/fly_zo/ultrapack.jpg
SturmKreator
03-02-2009, 01:09 PM
aaaa thanks you, but I dont want to play whits this mod obline because I play in Warclouds, my intention is use it in offline mode, the real velocity in this game is a crap
aaaa thanks you, but I dont want to play whits this mod obline because I play in Warclouds, my intention is use it in offline mode, the real velocity in this game is a crap
According to who?
II/JG54_Emil
03-02-2009, 02:01 PM
...ultrpack contains 98% AAA mods , not one mod has been madden by ultrapack's author ...
well that´s why it´s called Ultr@pack and not Ultr@mod :rolleyes:
To be honest it´s quite practical to have them all together and being able to switch off the ones that you aren´t happy with, i.e. weapons-mod.
If AAA had managed to make make a sufficiently working compilation of mods, then I would have properly stayed with them. But that is not the case.
he just compiled them ( poorly) .
he did a better there than AAA in any of their compilations.
So do yourself a favor and come to AAA if need mods ( google it for the link) and you'll be sure that nothing " funky" hasn't get included in your installation.
( ultrapack had included weapons mod for stock planes without telling users, up to its 1.4version... so guys has cheated online with stronger guns unaware of anything ) .
This mod has been removed from the ordinary installation since 1.5 now there is version 1.6 out.
Seriously come and get mods at the source ....
reg
Z
Yes, and you will get free threats from PeaceLovinHippy personally once you should try spread those mods faster by uploading them on your website. With illegal claims like AAA own all right on any Sturmovik-based mod!
Well, I guess we can keep doing mudwrestling, I am convinced about the qualitys of Ultr@pack and you are not. Let´s leave it with that. Probably the community benefits from the fact that there are several talents out there that enrich the game.
With illegal claims like AAA own all right on any Sturmovik-based mod!
Oh my...:lol:
fly_zo
03-02-2009, 03:43 PM
With illegal claims like AAA own all right on any Sturmovik-based mod!
there are no such claims ... and there never was any ... there was just misinterpreted request regarding asking for permission ( giving credits) from mod authors ( so mods wouldn't get used for cheating ... like they are now with ultrapack) . How long you gonna hide behind that ?
.. being one of those who actually make mods i believe i do have knowledge and understandings how mods are created , how they work and how they should get compiled ...so when i say that ultrapack is poorly done and doesn't allow users to clearly see which mods are included ( so they can disable some mods if desired) i know what i'm talking about .
but let the users decide whether they want to be compatible with 10000+ other players or 250 . Would they trust those who actually make those mods or bunch of guys who are running modding forum with cca 250 members and didn't come out with one single original mod since starting day.
my intention isn't to argue here .... just to let people know their options and what they are really getting with ultrapack ( one discovered cheat was addressed after being publicly exposed ... how many of such mods are still hidden ... one can only wonder ).
Z
nearmiss
03-02-2009, 04:23 PM
Part 2 of Oleg Interview (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/Part%202%20of%20Oleg%20Interview%20-%20translated%20with%20google%20http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ru%7Cen&u=http://www.spread-wings.ru/index.php&prev=/translate_s%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3Dhttp://spread-wings.ru/index.php%253Foption%253Dcom_content%2526task%253D %20view%2526id%253D156%2526Itemid%253D42%26sl%3Den %26%20tl%3Dru)- you can use Google translator from Russian to English or language of choice
http://www.spread-wings.ru (http://www.spread-wings.ru/)
If you read the above article carefully. It indicates the source for IL2 has long ago been distributed among devs. Maybe some for money, maybe some for free, maybe just a way to wink and say NO at the same time.
Regardless, the source code is out there in internet-land and it's being used.
Oleg's statement in the above article included, "If you talk about some of the other developers, we have transferred them to the source code <IL2> a long time."
It is translated from Russian. I would say that Oleg knew what he was doing when he released the code.
The place to discuss mods is in the place you acquire them, not here.
fly_zo
03-02-2009, 04:33 PM
... thank you for stopping by ,
as i said my intention isn't to discuss mods or to advertise mod forums but after post which clearly misguides users ... i had to react .
also thanks for the link ...
regards
Z
II/JG54_Emil
03-02-2009, 05:13 PM
there are no such claims ... and there never was any ... there was just misinterpreted request regarding asking for permission ( giving credits) from mod authors ( so mods wouldn't get used for cheating ... like they are now with ultrapack) . How long you gonna hide behind that ?
...
Z
I personally received such an email by PeaceLovingHippy after hosting and advertising the mods our group needed to play coops. He made legal claims and that he would take legal actions.
The reason why I put them on our website was to make it easy to download them for our members, as some had problems logging into AAA and finding all the different mods required.
Now I´m very satisfied with Ultr@mod as it offers more features than I could understand to install with AAA. Additionally it offers a standard that you don´t get when everyone install different planes and sounds and textures individually.
Robert
03-03-2009, 07:01 AM
You can download it from our Website aslwell!
Check the download-section.
Great movies on your site II/JG54_Emil. Loved Operation Boddenplott. (sp) Very talented movie makers.
tagTaken2
03-03-2009, 07:05 AM
At the risk of stating the obvious, the hippie doesn't sound too peace loving.
fly_zo
03-03-2009, 07:55 AM
At the risk of stating the obvious, the hippie doesn't sound too peace loving.
yeah, the guy is awful .... he runs and organize free forum , offers his mods freely to anybody and all he asks is that his work/mods aren't used for cheating ....
eh , you must be one of those who can only contribute to IL2 community by posting such nonsense ....
what, did you try to "sell" one of his mods as your work? ... so your ego got spanked
Z
SlipBall
03-03-2009, 09:57 AM
no honor among thieves:grin:
Brain32
03-03-2009, 10:11 AM
Can we stop the "MOD wars" already?
It's really getting old...
Nike-it
03-03-2009, 10:21 AM
Can we stop the "MOD wars" already?
It's really getting old...
Fully agree with Brain32. One more offencive post and I'll have to close the thread.
fly_zo
03-03-2009, 11:14 AM
Can we stop the "MOD wars" already?
It's really getting old...
agree ... let's get back to endless whining about uber Spitfire ...much more interesting ;-)
@Nike-it : ok , whatever you say
reg
Z
I/ZG52_HaDeS
03-03-2009, 03:07 PM
Hi everybody here in this forum.
This is the first and the last time I write here .
Enjoy life everybody!
S!
I/ZG52_HaDeS
Nike-it
03-03-2009, 03:10 PM
As I warned everybody, the thread is closed. Say thanks to I/ZG52_HaDeS!
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