Reviews

[Nike-it]

As the release date is coming several MoW reviews have already appeared in the net. The marks are pretty nice and the game seems to justify our hopes!

GameShark (http://www.gameshark.com/reviews/3231/p_0/Men-of-War-Review.htm) - A- (Editor's Choice)

Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/men-of-war-review) - 9/10

Computergames.ro (http://computergames.ro/en/games/viewitem/id/1909/name/men-of-war/section/review.html) - 90/100 (Editor's Choice Gold Award)

Game Debate (http://www.game-debate.com/articles/index.php?a_id=253&game=Men%20of%20war) - 9/10

Spillverket (Norway) (http://www.spillverket.no/artikler/men_of_war/68120) - 9/10

The Reticule (http://thereticule.com/2009/03/men-of-war-the-verdict/)

Out of Eight (http://jaguarusf.blogspot.com/2009/03/men-of-war-review.html) - 7/8

IncGamers (http://www.incgamers.com/Games/1908/reviews/Men-of-War-PC/829/) - 8,6/10

PC Gamer UK - 85%

PCGZine (http://www.gamerzines.com/downloading-pcgzine_26.html) - 85/100

PC Format (http://www.pcformat.co.uk/blog-entry/men-war-04-03-09) - 84/100

Gameswelt (Germany) (http://www.gameswelt.de/articles/reviews/5737-Men_of_War/index.html) - 82/100

IGN (http://pc.ign.com/articles/963/963523p1.html) - 8/10

Games Radar (http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/men-of-war/review/men-of-war/a-2009022791628333015/g-20080807121332267039) - 8/10

GameOn UK (http://www.gameon.co.uk/games/review/pc/men-of-war) - 8/10

Cyber stratege (France) (http://www.cyberstratege.com/magazine/2009/02/men-of-war-attaque-surprise-sur-le-front-de-lest/) - 8/10

WildGames (Spain) (http://wildgames.es/analisis-men-of-war/) - 8/10

Spiele Radar (Germany) (http://www.spieleradar.de/PC/artikel/men-of-war/6_11489_748/krieg-in-echtzeit-men-of-war-im-spieleradar-test.html) - 80/100

Resolution Magazine (http://www.resolution-magazine.co.uk/issue5/review_menofwar.htm) - 80%

MeriStation (Spain) (http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_analisis.php?pic=PC&id=cw49c52377dd8aa&idj=cw47a1fb169e075&idp=&tipo=art&c=1&pos=0) - 8/10

Bit-tech.net (http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2009/03/28/men-of-war-review/1) - 8/10

Adrenaline Vault (http://www.avault.com/reviews/pc/men-of-war-pc-review/) - 8/10

GameStar (Italy) (http://www.gamestar.it/showPage.php?template=Recensione&id=1673&argomento=Men+of+War&masterPage=ngs_articolo.html) - 78/100

Strategy Informer (http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/menofwar/review.html) - 7,5/10

GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/menofwar/review.html) - 7,5/10

[thegrindre]

Well, I'm a little disappointed in their ratings. My gosh, this game is virtually perfect. 9 out of 10 or 95 of 100 is far closer to the real assessment of this wonderful war game, IMO.

:evil:

[dazzo19876]

Yep its looking good :grin:

[razzyrazz]

Ya i think the game is groundbreaking and fresh. One of my favorite games ever to this point. Only 2 things I can think would be to make the graphics even better like dx10 if you wanted. Also smoothing out the direct contol with infantry. A way to get the camera to follow would be nice too unless im just missing it.

[Colonel Kilgore]

A great job men! You all deserve a medal for this game. !!!
Well done...

Colonel Kilgore

[Terje22]

http://www.spillverket.no/artikler/men_of_war/68120 (Norwegian)
Google translate link (http://74.125.79.132/translate_c?hl=no&sl=no&tl=en&u=http://www.spillverket.no/artikler/men_of_war/68120&prev=hp&usg=ALkJrhi5GUwTok8ubY7tdv4NpGmJA7sGTA) (English)

9/10

9 - "Classic"

A game that gets this mark, will be remembered for a long time to come. It is in all respects a very strong performance, and the powers to move us in ways that get us to the joy us - constantly. We expect that these games will be soon be seen as classics, and gameplay that is to get here, we expect will be very engaging for a long time to come. If these games have faults and shortcomings, they are immaterial for the entirety.

[200mg]

Great game guys. Here's a small review I wrote up:

http://www.nixlab.net/blog/

[sirrodent]

personally I think men of war is every type of game rolled into 1 which i think is awsome:o:grin::lol:

[donjas]

I agree this game has everything. You can have large scale battles, like in mission 2 of soviet campaign or small squad based battles as in mission 2 of that campaign. You can even have a single soldier stealthily moving about and killing enemies one by one as in the game commandos.

This game deserves to be one of the most popular.

[Evilsausage]

Think mainly what drags down the rating abit is cuz of the terrible voice acting. Only thing i didn't like about the game, besides that its an amazing game.

And yeah it would deserve 9/10 atleast

[Nike-it]

PC Format has reviewd MoW and gave 84%
http://www.pcformat.co.uk/blog-entry/men-war-04-03-09
"It's a hard game, but that challenge and scope will be what keeps you coming back after your arse is handed to you. Again." - summarizes the author.

[Rosta]

This is def one of the better games i've played in a while. Gameplay is addictive and frustrating (challanging). It's like company of heroes with the limits taken off.
Some awesome, realistic and intense WW2 battles. A little bit of stragity makes for a satisfying couple of hours of heroic war. Kill ze germaans

[Lancer]

I love this game so much I could crush a grape ! As much as I have enjoyed playing Company of Heroes, Men of War is what I have been eagerly awaiting. COH = Hollywood WW2. MOW = Stalingrad WW2. Many, many thanks to everyone involved in making this great game :grin:

[Imperial Dane]

Out of curiosity, but why is CoH the hollywood WW2 ? I mean MoV has all the flashy explosions :P

[thegrindre]

I believe what Lancer means is that CoH is so arcady that it actually stinks and is more of a visual trip then any type of strategy game like Men of War.
You have to think and plot your next moves in MoW and not have a time limit to do it in like CoH.
In CoH, the fastest man wins. How crappy and realistic is that?
In MoW, the best tactics and strategy wins. You have to actually plot and plan to beat this game.

Men of War was designed for a real thinking man.
CoH was designed for the 'arcade kids'.

:grin:

[Imperial Dane]

I have to ask, but have you ever played CoH ? Or did you just pick that up from everybody else ? Because that is a load of nonsense.

Arcady ? And you are aware that it is MoW that has the direct control feature ? :-P

The fastest man wins ? Not really, but then, being fast is actually a viable strategy you know, question is, can you then hold what you have taken ? ;)

But of course if you have a problem with speed, intensity and making choices, sometimes quick ones, like you know.. they had to in the real world :P

And i would like to see the proof that CoH was designed for arcade kids while MoV was for thinking men :P So far all i have seen is that MoW is for braggards :P

[donjas]

I have never lost a game in COH.

I follow a simply rule, I simply barrage the opposition with mortars and off screen artillery till it destroys practically everything. There is never any problem of ammo for artillery or mortar, that is endless.

After every living thing I can see is destroyed I advance cautiously. If I lose even one unit I build it again.

In games where I don't start with mortar there is a bit of a challenge, but once I start building things it is practically game over.

If the above is not a description of arcade game then I don't know what is. In contrast to this ammo is limited in MOW, I am in the fifth mission of Soviet side and I am yet to encounter mortars. Every thing seems vulnerable. You have to take care of every soldier you have and every weapon you. Nothing can be built up like a production line. You have limited ammo.

If you cannot see the difference between the two, then obviously Men of War is not the game for you. You should try Age of Empires, you will enjoy that more than COH.

[Imperial Dane]

Was that in the singleplayer campaign or in multiplayer you pulled that off if i may ask ? And i have to say, that must be one of the most dull strategies to pull off in a singleplayer game nonetheless, and if it is all that you do, then sure it is going to be boring, but then, it is your own fault :P Though to be honest, i have a hard time seeing mortars and off map artillery only being a viable winning strategy.

But i cannot imagine that working in multiplayer, especially not against any competent opponent..

If the above is not a description of arcade game then I don't know what is. In contrast to this ammo is limited in MOW, I am in the fifth mission of Soviet side and I am yet to encounter mortars. Every thing seems vulnerable. You have to take care of every soldier you have and every weapon you. Nothing can be built up like a production line. You have limited ammo.

How about one where you take direct control of your units :P And to be honest, that sounds more like Commandos than any RTS game, if anything, more an RTT.

If you cannot see the difference between the two, then obviously Men of War is not the game for you. You should try Age of Empires, you will enjoy that more than COH.

How would you know ? Since you seem unable to tell the difference between CoH and Age of Empires, two very different games ,yet both good, and never said Men of War was bad :P Yet you seem so determined to say that CoH is trash while Men of war is pure gold, and the way you seem to talk down to me.. Well if Men of War is so great, should it not be obvious to me and you should not have to act all arrogant towards me ? ;)

[Evilsausage]

Played alot rated CoH. And yes its much more of an arcade game then MoW is. When it comes to realism MoW is light years ahead.
But CoH is still alot more realistic then the average RTS game out there and arcade isnt always a bad thing.'

I like both CoH and MoW in different ways. Even tho CoH could need some fixes *cough* british faction *cough*.


As for the whole mortar/arty spam thing Donjas think hes King of.
That just sux in CoH and is only good fighting noobs on maps that are pretty much made for that.
If you really think your so good try to play some rated 1vs1 and not fighting noobs/computers on BS maps.

[donjas]

I was talking about single player but if you are so interested in multiplayer then they are plenty of games that focus better on multiplayer. Warhammer is a good example. And Dawn of War.

I can't take a game seriously where you can produce human beings off a production line. A world where ammunation is unlimited. And that is what COH is.

You talked about my artillery usage, but why shouldn't I when it gets me easy victories.
I think we two belong in two differerent gaming universes. You belong to the camp of which of which warcraft and Age Of Empires are the prime examples, I of which Myth 2 Soulblighter is the prime example.

We both have our tastes and each of us is right on our own way.

[donjas]

I was talking about single player but if you are so interested in multiplayer then they are plenty of games that focus better on multiplayer. Warhammer is a good example. And Dawn of War.

I can't take a game seriously where you can produce human beings off a production line. A world where ammunition is unlimited. And that is what COH is.

You talked about my artillery usage, but why shouldn't I when it gets me easy victories.
I think we two belong in two different gaming universes. You belong to the camp of which of which warcraft and Age Of Empires are the prime examples, I of which Myth 2 Soulblighter is the prime example.

We both have our tastes and each of us is right on our own way.

[Evilsausage]

I think you belong in an own universe all together.

Learn to read, i play both MoW and CoH. Thats why i said both games are good in thier own way.
You know people can like several games even if they are different.


"I can't take a game seriously where you can produce human beings off a production line"

Dawn of war dose the exact same thing. And DoW is bassicly a more simple version of CoH. Its even made by the same company.


"You talked about my artillery usage, but why shouldn't I when it gets me easy victories."

Yes like you said, you play single player. CoH is not good in SP and never has been and if you only play it in single player your arguments mean nothing.

Seriously your free to think and talk shit about any game out there, but atleast have some ******* VALID ARGUMENTS!



Case closed.

[donjas]

Seriously your free to think and talk shit about any game out there, but atleast have some ******* VALID ARGUMENTS!



Case closed.

I think you are talking nonsense. When did I say in my original post that I was talking about multiplayer. You assumed erroneously.

There are a multitude of good multiplayer games out there, many of them much better than COH because they make no false pretenses of being single player experiences.

Dawn of War and Warhammer are much better than COH on any day, because their main focus is never on single player, and they work fine online without having a shred of realism between the two of them.

If you cannot see that, you are living in cuckoo land.

Case Reopened

[Evilsausage]

I think you are talking nonsense. When did I say in my original post that I was talking about multiplayer. You assumed erroneously.

There are a multitude of good multiplayer games out there, many of them much better than COH because they make no false pretenses of being single player experiences.

Dawn of War and Warhammer are much better than COH on any day, because their main focus is never on single player, and they work fine online without having a shred of realism between the two of them.

If you cannot see that, you are living in cuckoo land.

Case Reopened


Okey so heres the deal...

1. You can't judge a game by only its singleplayer(like you did). And CoH has never made "false pretenses of being single player experiences."

2. You can't compare CoHs multiplayer to other games in MP if you havent even played CoH in MP.

3. Warhammer? What game is that? Warhammer online? Warhammer mark of chaos? Warhammer 40k? or warhammer dark omen?

4. You can't really talk smack about CoH and love DoW. Since they are basicallly the same game. Its like saying Counterstrike source is a Shitty game...but original counterstrike is 10 times better!

[donjas]

Okey so heres the deal...

1. You can't judge a game by only its singleplayer(like you did). And CoH has never made "false pretenses of being single player experiences."

2. You can't compare CoHs multiplayer to other games in MP if you havent even played CoH in MP.

3. Warhammer? What game is that? Warhammer online? Warhammer mark of chaos? Warhammer 40k? or warhammer dark omen?

4. You can't really talk smack about CoH and love DoW. Since they are basicallly the same game. Its like saying Counterstrike source is a Shitty game...but original counterstrike is 10 times better!

Answers-
1. Any game which has a large single player campaign, justifies being judged on how good that campaign is. COH qualifies on that count and fails in my book.
2. I never said I have never played COH online, only rarely. I just think the fun factor is more in games like Dawn of War and Warhammer 40k where the design focus is clearly on the multiplayer component of the game.
3. Warhammer 40k.
4. If that logic was there, we would never need a new improved game, because they are all basically the same, from the time the first Warcraft game came to the rts scene and maybe earlier.

I can appreciate your point of view though. I have been playing computer games for nearly 13 years now. I used to like arcade games like COH before, was totally bowled over by their flashy graphics, but not any more.

I need content, I need strategic options in my games so that I can put my mind to work.

[Imperial Dane]

I need content, I need strategic options in my games so that I can put my mind to work.

It doesn't sound like that in the way you post and the way you talk to people.

I never said I have never played COH online, only rarely. I just think the fun factor is more in games like Dawn of War and Warhammer 40k where the design focus is clearly on the multiplayer component of the game.

And it isn't in CoH ? Because it sounds like you never bothered to play mutliplayer alot, or what ? Can the two never be seperate experiences ?

[Evilsausage]

"I never said I have never played COH online, only rarely."

Well true but you judged it only by its single player. Why? Cuz it has a campaign?

I mean seriously take Starcraft for example. It had a really complex campaign for its time. But starcraft isnt exactly known for that now is it?


"4. If that logic was there, we would never need a new improved game, because they are all basically the same, from the time the first Warcraft game came to the rts scene and maybe earlier."

That was not the point i was trying to make. Theres a hugh different between that and a game that is made almost exactly as CoH.

And you don't even have any real arguments on why CoH is bad. Except that it isnt good in single player. Which we already know!


"I need content, I need strategic options in my games so that I can put my mind to work."

Good because in answering threads you don't really seam to "put your mind to work".

[donjas]

"I never said I have never played COH online, only rarely."

Well true but you judged it only by its single player. Why? Cuz it has a campaign?

I mean seriously take Starcraft for example. It had a really complex campaign for its time. But starcraft isnt exactly known for that now is it?


"4. If that logic was there, we would never need a new improved game, because they are all basically the same, from the time the first Warcraft game came to the rts scene and maybe earlier."

That was not the point i was trying to make. Theres a hugh different between that and a game that is made almost exactly as CoH.

And you don't even have any real arguments on why CoH is bad. Except that it isnt good in single player. Which we already know!


"I need content, I need strategic options in my games so that I can put my mind to work."

Good because in answering threads you don't really seam to "put your mind to work".

Like a stuck record you simply don't get it. So let me repeat for the umpteenth time.
1.I play mostly single player and in that COH is simply not realistic enough for me. When I play multiplayer I play games like Dawn of war and Warhammer because they were designed mainly for multiplayer. They have several little nuances that make them perfect for multiplayer. But I don't play multiplayer that often so I am not a good judge of it.
2. I never said COH was bad, it is simply an arcade game and I am tired of those games. Is calling a game an arcade game an insult? If so there are many other games that fall into that category.
3. I don't consider COH a leap in improvement over the original Warcraft. It is basically the same game, but flashier graphics. But that does not mean I am calling COH a bad game, Warcraft was one my favorite games.
4. Are you some personal representative of COH that you are taking it so personally. If you like arcade games, well and good, what is wrong with that.

[DMS|Instinct]

This topic is not about which game is better, so stick on the topic and leave that discussion.

Men of War and Company of Heroes aren't even in the same sub-genre, so it's pretty much useless to compare them.

Thanks!

[Evilsausage]

Sigh this disscution was never about which game was better. Like i posted like 5 treads before.

I like both game in thier own way.

"Like a stuck record you simply don't get it."

If you would read your own damn post maybe you would figure out why.

If you could have had some valid reasons in the first post why you didn't like the game instead of a load of BS. I would't have had to waste so much time on this thread.
This forum is for MoW and not CoH after all.

[donjas]

The review is short, hardly a paragraph, but it captures all the imagery of why this game is so good.

Read it yourself-http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/games-review-men-of-war-1638956.html

[AceWombat]

This will hopefully end the CoH vs MoW rant (if it's still going): MoW focuses more on realism (except for voice acting), whereas games like CoH, DoW and StarCraft place priority on fun over realism.

I rest my case.

[donjas]

I thought the review was pretty fair-http://thereticule.com/2009/03/men-of-war-the-verdict/

[donjas]

A mini review-http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/mar/17/men-of-war-pc.

As you can see, generally positive. And since it is read by so many people, newspapers reviews by big newspapers like these are more likely to influence opinion of a game than an internet gaming site.

[Nike-it]

Men of War got "Impressive" raiting and scored 8/10 in the recent review on IGN!
Tha author says: "Men of War...is one of the most enjoyable and challenging tactical games we've played in a long time."
Full review here (http://pc.ign.com/articles/963/963523p1.html)!

[Nike-it]

At Games Radar Men of War scored 8/10 and "Great" rating!
Find the review here (http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/men-of-war/review/men-of-war/a-2009022791628333015/g-20080807121332267039).

[Nike-it]

GameZone published their review of MoW - 7.5/10.
http://pc.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r34623.htm

[Nike-it]

Strategy Informer reviewed MoW and gave 7.5/10
The author summarizes - "We implore you to at least try Men of War. It’s the least you can do. If you don’t you’ll be missing one of the best strategy games in a long while."
Full review here (http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/menofwar/review.html).

[Nike-it]

Recent review at MeriStation (Spain). MoW scored 8/10.
Full review here (http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_analisis.php?pic=PC&id=cw49c52377dd8aa&idj=cw47a1fb169e075&idp=&tipo=art&c=1&pos=0).

[Nike-it]

Italian portal Multiplayer also review Men of War and gave 8/10.
Full review here (http://www.multiplayer.it/articolo.php?id=54375&pag=1).

[Terje22]

Another review of the game from norway.
http://gamer.no/article.php?articleId=586

[Achilleslastand]

The US PC Gamer{may edition} gave MOW a 85%.....thats pretty impressive......it was actually the highest review they did this month End War got a 77%......Hope to have the game in the next few days

[Nike-it]

Latest review at Resolution on-line magazine. MoW scored 80%!
Full review here (http://www.resolution-magazine.co.uk/issue5/review_menofwar.htm).

[Nike-it]

Latest review at Bit-tech.net. MoW scored 8/10.
Full review here (http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2009/03/28/men-of-war-review/1).

[Nike-it]

Men of War recieved Editor's Choice and A- rank in the latest review at GameShark.

You can find the full review here (http://www.gameshark.com/reviews/3231/p_0/Men-of-War-Review.htm).

[Nike-it]

Nice and informative review of MoW at The Wargamer.
"The bottom line is that I love these games and they could probably make them until the end of time and I'd be perfectly satisfied forking over my $40 every few years." - said the author.
Full review here (http://www.wargamer.com/article/2682/men-of-war-reviewed).

[Nike-it]

Review by Rock, Paper, Shotgun.
"This is a real war." - summarizes tha reviewer.
You can find full text here (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/03/27/wot-i-think-men-of-war/).

[Nike-it]

Recent review of Men of War appeared at spanish game portal Vandal Online. The game got 8/10.
You can find review here (http://www.vandal.net/cgi-bin/veranalisisjuego.pl?n=8352&pag=1).

[Nike-it]

Video review of MoW at AllGameReviews.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su0eWGEBRzI

[Nike-it]

Recent review of Men of War by Gameswelt. The game scored 82/100.
The full review in german can be found here (http://www.gameswelt.de/articles/reviews/5737-Men_of_War/index.html).

[Morgoth]

Seriously guys who cares what mags gave what review to this or any other game,if you like the game stuff the reviews lol.:-)

[Nike-it]

Latest review of Men of War. Adrenaline Vault gave 8/10 and "Buy it" recommendation!
"If you’re an RTS fan who wants a little more control over a game, you should probably pick this up." - summarizes the author.
You can find the review here (http://www.avault.com/reviews/pc/men-of-war-pc-review/).

[wolfweb]

I notice none of the reviews say "terrible patch support" or "you'll wait forever for a patch depending on your location in the world". i think a reviewer should try and patch their game and write how that went. Here's my review:

A patch was finally released to fix the many problems that shipped with the game but they released it in choppy, haphazard way and some versions (such as mine in Australia) are still yet to even get a working patch. It seems to me that support and bugs has ruined this game and I worry that future releases will go the same way unless they sack everyone and start again.

[Johan (PC writer)]

Dutch website PC GameSpecial posted a very long and deep review about Men of War, giving it a full 86/100 score, after testing it quite some time.
I wrote it myself and I hope someone here comments on it, here's a translated version: Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcgamespecial.nl%2F%3Fitemid%3D 8634&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=)
Original can be found here (http://www.pcgamespecial.nl/?itemid=8634).

''Men of War stands on the list of PC Games of which we can be proud''

[Nike-it]

Another great score for Men of War. Game Debate reviewed Mow and gave 9/10!!!
"To those who enjoy ridiculously hardcore strategy games, requiring a week skived off work because a single battle can last two days; then I say Men of War is the game for you." - summarizes the author.
You can find whole review here (http://www.game-debate.com/articles/index.php?a_id=253&game=Men%20of%20war).

[BolshajaSvinja]

Pelit give to Men of war 92/100 points. And "Pelit suosittelee" (recommend)

http://www.pelit.fi/index.php?id=70101 Whole rewiew in Finnish.

[Nike-it]

Computergames.ro review - 90/100 (Editor's Choice Gold Award)
Full article (English) here (http://computergames.ro/en/games/viewitem/id/1909/name/men-of-war/section/review.html).

[horymury]

Just finished the Soviet campain, I must say it was impressive, very well thought and done- simply loved the ending cinematics with all the guys dancing traditional russian in Berlin, with flashes to the pain they went through until this point.

I think this is the best game I've played since Shogun-Total War and Cossacks- European Wars, that's like 8 years ago or more! My sincere congrats for it!

I only have two observations:

1. As many others mentioned, think it needs a Skirmish mode
2. Regarding units inventory, I think there should be an auto-manage option which enables units to automatically search for at least basic stuff like ammo for their weapons and maybe bandages too. If not, at least to have an icon above their heads with 'NO AMMO' and possibly 'No Bandages' too for the troops that are out of them, that's because in a battle involving many troops, it's almost impossible to check each unit individually if he has ammo, bandages & stuff. SO what I suggest, when not under fire the troops with no ammo should automatically scavage the nearby dead units for it if auto-manage inventory option is on. Other than that, I like the inventory idea which gives a RPG feeling to it, combined with direct control option---lack of auto-manage to it draws it back abit in large scale battles. Just my tought, others may say scavaging for things is part of the game charisma-yes but after a while you don't want to do that any more as you did it too many times and becomes booring.

Sorry if I used the wrong forum for my comment, to fit in, I'll give it a 9.7/10 :)

[helpmeplease0101]

Epic game, 10/10

[Shareef]

i only picked this game because i was bored, i said to myself 'pick this up play through it in a day and then go back to playing company, medeival 2 and the other great games' little did i know what was waiting for me. were as many say company of heros is better than this game, i think CP is no match for men of war, if only it had a more user friendly tools an touches.

the amount of work and tought that has been put on this game to provide it with depth and realism is far ahead of anything i've seen before, had this game had a few minor features it'd probably replace cp as the top wwii rts. and i really hope to see the next instalment having these improvment, so as to reduce the liklihood of people finding it too demanding.

so here are a couple of my own ideas:

before i start i'd like to just say MOW was far better than Red Tide because some changes were made in the wrong direction, and since i've completed MOW and am more than half way through RT i'd say that NONE OF THE EXISTING FEATURES SHOULD BE REMOVED.

micro managing units is one of this games strongest points, it is also it's weakest. especially in RT were your men will always run out of ammo. this is a cool feature, and it is realistic. but then try rearming 50 men, in the heat of battle, with little time before the enemies next attack. (i've successfully rearmed large groups of men by slowing the game down and hitting the pause key sevaral times per in game second, and i did not enjoy it, neither will anyone who tries) isnt there another way to make your troops replenish themslves with as few clicks as possiple?

my idea is that there should a new inventory mechanism, for example you equip your lone soldier with 10 med kits, 1 smg, 300 rounds, 4 ap granedes and 4 normal ones, now he is ready for battle. after some time when you wish to rearm him and his comrades, instead of selecting each and then going to a dead body or crate, consider if you could just click save inventory when he was carrying full equipment, then when you want him to replenish you click replenish and the select and area, your man will automatically go to that area and search for what he needs within it's boundries, he will only take a specific item if he has less than the saved amount, and he will only search within the area specified, when finishe he returns to his original position. so you didnt have to click though 10 bodies and 5 crates (some of which you have already looted). a feature like that will cut my mission time by atleast 30min. the same could be applied to tanks, some of the crew will exit go and fetch the right munitions and even feul from nearby disabled enemy tanks. with a saved inventory they will only carry he specified amount so there is enough left to go around. the specific area to loot from will mean your men will not venture into dangerous ground in search of suplies. and you will use the slow time feature less often as it reduces game enjoyment.

the other area this game needs improvement is sound, voice acting is cold and out of context (even terrible), red tide also changed some of the sound effects but again in the wrong direction, the old ones where better.

several important items are also extremely rare in this game, two inperticular, are mine detectors, and barrels in which to store fuel, typically every veihcle should have atleast one (they always did).

ok i'm getting sleepy but i'll probably write a few more points latter.

ps. the people who cocieved and designed this game should be proud of themselves, this is really the best piece of wwii strategy game ever, perhaps better than all modern warfare rts games.

[Trotskygrad]

my idea is that there should a new inventory mechanism, for example you equip your lone soldier with 10 med kits, 1 smg, 300 rounds, 4 ap granedes and 4 normal ones, now he is ready for battle. after some time when you wish to rearm him and his comrades, instead of selecting each and then going to a dead body or crate, consider if you could just click save inventory when he was carrying full equipment, then when you want him to replenish you click replenish and the select and area, your man will automatically go to that area and search for what he needs within it's boundries, he will only take a specific item if he has less than the saved amount, and he will only search within the area specified, when finishe he returns to his original position. so you didnt have to click though 10 bodies and 5 crates (some of which you have already looted). a feature like that will cut my mission time by atleast 30min. the same could be applied to tanks, some of the crew will exit go and fetch the right munitions and even feul from nearby disabled enemy tanks. with a saved inventory they will only carry he specified amount so there is enough left to go around. the specific area to loot from will mean your men will not venture into dangerous ground in search of suplies. and you will use the slow time feature less often as it reduces game enjoyment.



Agree, although I think that we should keep the manual inventory search (ofc) and add a graphic (like the circle used for terrain editing) to specify the area in which to search, so you don't have men walking right in front of a MG nest to scavenge off a guy who was killed by it

[Tammy1949]

Well, I'm a little disappointed in their ratings. My gosh, this game is virtually perfect. 9 out of 10 or 95 of 100 is far closer to the real assessment of this wonderful war game, IMO.
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[Jf4frWil]

I'm a little disappointed in their ratings